Vote Last Minute (Read 5895 times)

hvybarrels

Vote Last Minute
« on: October 20, 2022, 01:25:36 PM »
According to independent fraud investigators on Steve Bannon’s War Room it’s more difficult for corrupt election officials to negate your vote or add extra fake votes after the fact if your ballot comes in at the last minute.The machine algorithms work best when they have lots of time (hence mail in ballots), and making them scramble in the final hours forces the evidence of their manipulation out into the open. 

In person and day-of-election is best.

« Last Edit: October 20, 2022, 01:42:56 PM by hvybarrels »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2022, 08:19:40 PM »
I assume that theory doesn't take into account the "3AM the Morning After the Polls Close" convoy of ballot boxes delivered to the counting facilities with no chain of custody?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2022, 12:53:11 PM »
The point is to force their fraud out into the open.

If you give them plenty of time then they can make gradual adjustments

Making the F like the graphic above is like a signal flare that draws way too much attention
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2022, 01:52:39 PM »
The point is to force their fraud out into the open.

If you give them plenty of time then they can make gradual adjustments

Making the F like the graphic above is like a signal flare that draws way too much attention

Evidence is allowed to be destroyed, like the return envelopes voters signed.  if not, than at least the ballots they contained are separated and never able to be associated again.  if a signature, postmark or registration is found to be invalid, they have no way to identify the person's ballot so it can be withdrawn.  Workers at some facilities were instructed to open the outer envelope, remove the inner envelope, and put them in separate boxes BEFORE any attempt was made at validation.  Doing that ensured invalid votes counted.

Without evidence, all the attention in the world isn't going to make a difference.  We know many things were questionable in 2020, but without the proverbial smoking gun and guilty parties admitting they broke the rules/laws, it's difficult to catch them in the act.

The whole counting system is so convoluted, even recounts don't matter.  Tally operators that "corrected" ballots aren't going to go back and correct all the unreadable ballots again, and if they did, how would we know they made the same change as the first time?

It's such a simple process:  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ...Trump, Biden, Trump, Biden ....

They've made it so complicated, there's really no way to audit what happened on election night and the few days afterward
« Last Edit: October 21, 2022, 10:17:29 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2022, 10:09:42 PM »
There is tons of evidence that 2020 was stolen but the courts chickened out because they don’t want antifa/blm thugs burning their neighborhoods down

The incoming red wave is going to make those courts consider an entirely new set of priorities, especially if the Dems really go big for the steal

Evidence is important, and if your vote comes in at 530 that means they have to either make it disappear  in two hours (creating a paper trail of discarded ballots) or roll in a stack of fake votes in the middle of the night (create an anomaly). Either way a huge red flag goes up that can be very useful later, if not right away.
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2022, 10:24:31 PM »
There is tons of evidence that 2020 was stolen but the courts chickened out because they don’t want antifa/blm thugs burning their neighborhoods down

The incoming red wave is going to make those courts consider an entirely new set of priorities, especially if the Dems really go big for the steal

Evidence is important, and if your vote comes in at 530 that means they have to either make it disappear  in two hours (creating a paper trail of discarded ballots) or roll in a stack of fake votes in the middle of the night (create an anomaly). Either way a huge red flag goes up that can be very useful later, if not right away.

Hawaii voting isn't AS big a concern to me, since going against the National Socialist Democratic Party of the Left here is just a dream most years.  I don't think they need to cheat in the national elections, since the voters are conditioned to cast ballots where the party name is listed.

Local races are different, which rarely gets mentioned in the election integrity discussion.  How many times did we see a Democrat be declared the winner only to have the close results recounted, and the GOP challenger wound up the real winner?  Several times in several states, as I recall.  When a ballot is summarily counted in the "D" column so Biden gets a vote, especially if the "corrected ballot" was wrong, the down-ballot candidates are also being screwed.

Too many moving parts, like I said.  Counting and ensuring the integrity of votes should be as simple as balancing a checkbook.  It's not like we've never done it before, yet every elecrtion is like the Keystone Cops are running the show.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jl808

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2022, 06:28:08 AM »
Good idea.  If a person received a mail-in ballot, can one still go in person on election day instead?
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macsak

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2022, 07:03:02 AM »
affirmative

Good idea.  If a person received a mail-in ballot, can one still go in person on election day instead?

QUIETShooter

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2022, 07:31:33 AM »
Why is it so important to declare election winners so quickly?  The advanced technology we have today lends to evil doings by evil people.

Maybe the old way is the proven way.  Even if it means the results takes time.

Look what happened in 2020 with all these "technologies".

We have an idiot(s) in office.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Rocky

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2022, 11:14:38 AM »
affirmative
Why not just deposit your ballot in the box there if you're going in person ?  :wacko:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2022, 12:41:32 PM »
Why not just deposit your ballot in the box there if you're going in person ?  :wacko:

Because the mail-in ballots are collected and counted through a different process.  At least you know your ballot was scanned if you show up to vote.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2022, 12:45:57 PM »
Why is it so important to declare election winners so quickly?  The advanced technology we have today lends to evil doings by evil people.

Maybe the old way is the proven way.  Even if it means the results takes time.

Look what happened in 2020 with all these "technologies".

We have an idiot(s) in office.

If the ballots are scanned at the polling places, how long should it take to run a tally of votes cast?  It's all electronically captured and summarized.

Mail-in ballots, whether dropped off or mailed-in, require humans to collect, transport, handle, scan, and correct any unreadable ballots.  They must also have safeguards to protect the chain of custody and processing. Too many hands introduce multiple opportunities for fishy results.

At the polling place, you mark the ballot, watch it be scanned, and the paper ballot is kept with the others for later verification/recounting if needed.

One person, one verifiable vote.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2022, 10:21:36 AM »
In the state of Hawaii, your vote don't mean shit.  It never has and never will.
I'm a "Jaded Mandarin" but the politics here are oriental and they follow the "old ways":
That is the cost of living on this island.
The trick is to learn how to, and to beat their system.
Be it guns, EV;s GMO's, or what ever crap some
"progressive" comes up with,  just figure out how to beat them.
Pretty easy as they don't really comprehend non-compliance.
 :grrr:


powerlessbump

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2022, 07:11:27 PM »
In the state of Hawaii, your vote don't mean shit.  It never has and never will.
I'm a "Jaded Mandarin" but the politics here are oriental and they follow the "old ways":
That is the cost of living on this island.
The trick is to learn how to, and to beat their system.
Be it guns, EV;s GMO's, or what ever crap some
"progressive" comes up with,  just figure out how to beat them.
Pretty easy as they don't really comprehend non-compliance.
 :grrr:

How nice it must be for democrats to be handed their victory by an opponent that won't even try.

hvybarrels

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2022, 01:35:42 AM »
“A Glitch”

https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/10/a-glitch-in-hawaiis-new-ballot-tracking-system-catches-big-island-voters-by-surprise/

More like their fraud system broke. If they were good at making things work then it wouldn’t be necessary for them to cheat in order to stay in power.

The main point this raises:

If you voted early how do you know you aren’t getting a fake confirmation?
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

QUIETShooter

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2022, 06:11:56 AM »
“A Glitch”

https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/10/a-glitch-in-hawaiis-new-ballot-tracking-system-catches-big-island-voters-by-surprise/

More like their fraud system broke. If they were good at making things work then it wouldn’t be necessary for them to cheat in order to stay in power.

The main point this raises:

If you voted early how do you know you aren’t getting a fake confirmation?

"errors" like these does wonders for the confidentiality of our voting process.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Rocky

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2022, 07:54:24 AM »
"errors" like these does wonders for the confidentiality of our voting process.
Remember when you used to have a detachable "receipt" with the matching ballot number on the ballot ?
Wonder why they stopped that  ?   ::)
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

groveler

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2022, 06:25:51 PM »
Remember when you used to have a detachable "receipt" with the matching ballot number on the ballot ?
Wonder why they stopped that  ?   ::)
Democrat state.
Nobody ever followed up.
Even if they did Democrats would ignore it.
 :geekdanc:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2022, 06:44:52 PM »
Remember when you used to have a detachable "receipt" with the matching ballot number on the ballot ?
Wonder why they stopped that  ?   ::)

I always thought the receipt was to show your employer, since they used to be required by state law to allow you up to 2 hours of paid time off to go to the polls.

If you took time off but failed to vote, your employer would be able to dock your paycheck for those two hours.

Now with early and mail-in voting for all, there's no reason for an employer to give time off on election day. 

That statute, 11-95, has been repealed.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Vote Last Minute
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2022, 07:55:54 PM »
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The first round of results will likely include ballots processed through Nov. 7, the day before Election Day. That will account for about 80% of ballots cast, so the outcome of many races could be apparent shortly after polls officially close.

https://www.kitv.com/news/local/hawaii-what-to-expect-on-election-night/article_84d2cf2b-d3e3-53a3-9c87-de3200b0b0ea.html

Of course they already started counting. That gives them plenty of time to cheat.

I’m voting in person on Election Day. Otherwise might as well just throw away the ballot.
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?