tommy watters lives a couple blocks away from me
i guess i am going to have to try and get an appointment with him...

I bet he is glad you own no guns or ammo.

They got called out for taking their constitutional oath minutes prior to the hearing begining since there are 2 new members.

I'm glad they got called out.  A lot of politicians take the oath out of formality.  They have no intention to follow it literally.

Hell I don't even think they understand the importance of that oath.  They simply have their heads too far up their (and the democratic party's) a$$.

I'm glad they got called out.  A lot of politicians take the oath out of formality.  They have no intention to follow it literally.

Hell I don't even think they understand the importance of that oath.  They simply have their heads too far up their (and the democratic party's) a$$.

city council is supposably non-partisan
but andria tupola and val okimoto are on the red team
augie t seems pretty centrist
and i know calvin say is pro-gun
i may have to contact him also, since he knows who "steve the dentist" is...

city council is supposably non-partisan
but andria tupola and val okimoto are on the red team
augie t seems pretty centrist
and i know calvin say is pro-gun
i may have to contact him also, since he knows who "steve the dentist" is...

Yes.  I am aware.  But I feel most on the council skew to the left.

6) HIFICO director mentions the mayor won't be there in spandex and a cape to save people. Mayor was in the audience waiting to testify. Troll level 9999

I didn't know the mayor was there.  Wish there was a camera on him.  Wonder if I'll be quoted on the news.

Thank u to all those who submitted testimony, zoomed, or showed up in person. We outnumbered the anti's 3 to 1.

MDA said more of them will be present next hearing.

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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/11/30/proposed-ban-concealed-weapons-sensitive-places-like-schools-moves-forward-council/

Mayor Rick Blangiardi submitted the measure for consideration, and said he understands the desire for protection.

“We also want to protect the public,” he said.

“And that’s why we are really strong on the sensitive places. I can’t rationalize ― with our society being what it is ― why you have to take a gun to the places that we’ve listed.”
Bill 57′s supporters say public safety comes first.

“You’re only going to cause problems by having more guns in the community. Simple as that. Look at Texas, look at Arizona, right? Hawaii is completely different from all these places,” said Alfred Keakahiona Medeiros.

Added Elna Nagasako, who also supported the bill:

“Please keep in mind that concealed gun laws don’t just involve people protecting themselves or others. They also apply to people who might be angry or intoxicated or for whom a gun could turn a bad situation worse,” she said.



Blangiardi knows that he will get re- elected. He doesn't care about the Constitution or about law-abiding citizens protecting themselves. His City administration can't protect us and he is OK with that. No range. Not enough police officers. I regret my vote for him.

I hope violent crime increases 10 fold on Oahu.

I would suggest to them instead of Gun Free Zone signs maybe a Crime Free Zone sign would work better.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/11/30/proposed-ban-concealed-weapons-sensitive-places-like-schools-moves-forward-council/

Mayor Rick Blangiardi submitted the measure for consideration, and said he understands the desire for protection.

“We also want to protect the public,” he said.

“And that’s why we are really strong on the sensitive places. I can’t rationalize ― with our society being what it is ― why you have to take a gun to the places that we’ve listed.”
Bill 57′s supporters say public safety comes first.

“You’re only going to cause problems by having more guns in the community. Simple as that. Look at Texas, look at Arizona, right? Hawaii is completely different from all these places,” said Alfred Keakahiona Medeiros.

Added Elna Nagasako, who also supported the bill:

“Please keep in mind that concealed gun laws don’t just involve people protecting themselves or others. They also apply to people who might be angry or intoxicated or for whom a gun could turn a bad situation worse,” she said.



Blangiardi knows that he will get re- elected. He doesn't care about the Constitution or about law-abiding citizens protecting themselves. His City administration can't protect us and he is OK with that. No range. Not enough police officers. I regret my vote for him.

I regret voting for him too.  But I just couldn't vote for Amemiya.  Plus I thought Rick was a maverick with his own mind and won't be the same old same old politician that we have had for decades.

I'd bet that Amemiya would have done the same thing Rick is doing now.  Maybe worse if that's even possible.

Buy yeah, the topic brought up about people being intoxicated or angry of which a gun would make matters worse.  Typical crybaby excuse.  All we as a society has to do is draft laws that severely punish CCW holders who abuse their license.  And I do mean severe.  So severe that it will not make you think twice but 1000 times about the consequences.

Most CCW holders will never have to think about the consequences.  The laws are there for those borderline cases where they somehow slipped between the cracks.  Nothing is perfect, no matter how we try.

Rick is trying to be everything to everyone.  No can.  Can tell he has higher office on his mind.  Damn  citizens rights and the constitution.

Right now I feel the same thing about him.  With harsher words than "damn".

Rick was the lesser of 2 evils. We would still be in the same boat with Amemiya.  Because any GOP didn't have a chance, some people who want to vote GOP vote DNC instead cause they don't want the main DNC guy to win (amemiya).  I understand that rationale. 

I mean what are the steps  a dictator does. 1) Restrict the people (Covid proclamations). 2) Remove  guns  (CCW restrictions).  I wonder what #3 will be next?

Getting a lot more sketchy all over. Having folks come up to me/someone in parking lots seems a lot more common.  The other night, I was picking up food and this lady was hiding inside the restaurant because a "weird guy" that came from Old Stadium Park.  I was at Times yesterday evening and a guy came up to me asking for a few dollars.  I told him I don't have any and he went to ask this older Korean lady.  Could see the fear in her eyes as he approached her. 

the testimony that stuck out the most to me was (i believe) from peter roa
he said "if gun free zones work, we could end the war in ukraine by just posting "gun free zone" signs all over the country"...

A little memorable note from the hearing is when Tupola asked the Mayor's representative something to the effect of "The gun community is knowledgeable and willing to compromise on the list of sensitive places (per SCOTUS), would the Mayor be willing to work with the 2A community on Bill 57?"

His response was like "we'll take a look at their comments and consider them"

A little memorable note from the hearing is when Tupola asked the Mayor's representative something to the effect of "The gun community is knowledgeable and willing to compromise on the list of sensitive places (per SCOTUS), would the Mayor be willing to work with the 2A community on Bill 57?"

His response was like "we'll take a look at their comments and consider them"

Which is a F-U no.

the testimony that stuck out the most to me was (i believe) from peter roa
he said "if gun free zones work, we could end the war in ukraine by just posting "gun free zone" signs all over the country"...

For those who don't know, he helps run Hawaii Tactical Division.  They offer the handgun safety class that's required for state law.

He was also at the Chiefs rules hearing in person.

Mayor Rick Blangiardi :
“And that’s why we are really strong on the sensitive places. I can’t rationalize ― with our society being what it is ― why you have to take a gun to the places that we’ve listed.”

12 recent mass shootings that gained national attention
March 19: Car show in Dumas, Arkansas
April 3: Epic Easter Bike Out & Field Party in Dallas, Texas
April 3: Entertainment district in Sacramento, California
April 12: Subway in New York City
May 14: Tops supermarket in Buffalo, New York
May 24: Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas
June 1: Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa, Oklahoma
July 4: Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois
Oct. 13: Nature trail in Raleigh, North Carolina
Nov. 13: University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia
Nov. 19: Club Q in Colorado Springs, Colorado
Nov. 22: Walmart in Chesapeake, Virginia


But, but, but that's not happening in our state !   

Man hospitalized after apparent shooting in Kalihi
bystanders fleeing as suspects fire more than 20 rounds, injuring 4 near Thomas Square (Honolulu)
Suspect in fatal Waikiki shooting charged with murder
Suspects in ‘execution style’ shooting arrested in Hawaii
A game room scuffle over a gun in Kalihi.
Two North Shore shootings within a month that leave three dead.
A seven-hour standoff  in Nanakuli that results in the death of an armed suspect.

Too much to post

12 recent mass shootings that gained national attention
March 19: Car show in Dumas, Arkansas
April 3: Epic Easter Bike Out & Field Party in Dallas, Texas
April 3: Entertainment district in Sacramento, California
April 12: Subway in New York City
May 14: Tops supermarket in Buffalo, New York
May 24: Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas
June 1: Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa, Oklahoma
July 4: Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois
Oct. 13: Nature trail in Raleigh, North Carolina
Nov. 13: University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia
Nov. 19: Club Q in Colorado Springs, Colorado
Nov. 22: Walmart in Chesapeake, Virginia


But, but, but that's not happening in our state !   

Man hospitalized after apparent shooting in Kalihi
bystanders fleeing as suspects fire more than 20 rounds, injuring 4 near Thomas Square (Honolulu)
Suspect in fatal Waikiki shooting charged with murder
Suspects in ‘execution style’ shooting arrested in Hawaii
A game room scuffle over a gun in Kalihi.
Two North Shore shootings within a month that leave three dead.
A seven-hour standoff  in Nanakuli that results in the death of an armed suspect.

Too much to post

Andria brought up the shootings in her district (Waianae) and that only 1 cop is on shift at all times.  Which is her reasoning for voting no.

The City Council is emboldens the criminals.  All these crybaby scairdy cat anti gun nuts should be afraid of the criminals, not law abiding citizens that respect law.

They are so afraid of guns they’re not thinking straight.

The City Council is emboldens the criminals.  All these crybaby scairdy cat anti gun nuts should be afraid of the criminals, not law abiding citizens that respect law.

They are so afraid of guns they’re not thinking straight.

I mentioned this multiple times in various testimonies.  But the control the media and left has on the narrative is very strong. Sheep cannot think.

Had 1 girl on zoom that said she is neither for or against it. So WTF you doing wasting peoples time by speaking via Zoom?  At least the other guy made a choice, the bang em out guy.

Had 1 girl on zoom that said she is neither for or against it. So WTF you doing wasting peoples time by speaking via Zoom?  At least the other guy made a choice, the bang em out guy.

   Too much time on their hands.  Dunno what to do with it.

Would have been better if she spent the time researching both sides of the fence on the gun issue so she can make an informed decision.

But that would mean thinking critically.  Heaven forbid she can't be doing that.....it's undemocratic.