*FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP (Read 11441 times)

macsak

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2022, 01:38:13 PM »
was that the girl that was trying to hold up a post it note in her zoom window?

I mentioned this multiple times in various testimonies.  But the control the media and left has on the narrative is very strong. Sheep cannot think.

Had 1 girl on zoom that said she is neither for or against it. So WTF you doing wasting peoples time by speaking via Zoom?  At least the other guy made a choice, the bang em out guy.

Gordyf

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2022, 05:50:03 PM »
Now go figure...
The testimony on bill 57 according to today's news rag was some 29% for and 71% against, yet it passed first reading 6-2. The fix was in
 The council is has nine members. Understand that one of ours, Ms. Tsunioshi was MIA.
On something of this magnitude?? What's up with that???
Aloha
Gordy

changemyoil66

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2022, 06:23:56 PM »
Now go figure...
The testimony on bill 57 according to today's news rag was some 29% for and 71% against, yet it passed first reading 6-2. The fix was in
 The council is has nine members. Understand that one of ours, Ms. Tsunioshi was MIA.
On something of this magnitude?? What's up with that???
Shes out in jan. So no matter.

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changemyoil66

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2022, 06:24:12 PM »
was that the girl that was trying to hold up a post it note in her zoom window?
Im not sure.

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nalo_b

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2022, 06:56:59 PM »
the testimony that stuck out the most to me was (i believe) from peter roa
he said "if gun free zones work, we could end the war in ukraine by just posting "gun free zone" signs all over the country"...

Pretty much what I wrote in my testimony. I wrote these types of bills only go against law abiding citizens period. If criminals followed laws and bills like these wouldn't we be crime free?

ren

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2022, 07:26:30 PM »
Pretty much what I wrote in my testimony. I wrote these types of bills only go against law abiding citizens period. If criminals followed laws and bills like these wouldn't we be crime free?

they lump us all in with the criminals
but they are OK with a City organization that was led by a corrupt Chief and his wife to carry guns. Fair perspective huh?!
imagine the same approach they have with elections. WHo is in charge here. Clearly not us.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2022, 07:33:39 PM »
they lump us all in with the criminals
but they are OK with a City organization that was led by a corrupt Chief and his wife to carry guns. Fair perspective huh?!

If the people upholding the law are that bad, imagine how much worse the rest of us are!    :shake:

Oh, wait.  Vast majority of the public have never been convicted in federal court.

Never mind!   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2022, 09:28:26 PM »
bills are very very rarely defeated on the first reading
rest assured there are many working behind the scenes to try and fix as much as we can
be watching this forum for more details...

Now go figure...
The testimony on bill 57 according to today's news rag was some 29% for and 71% against, yet it passed first reading 6-2. The fix was in
 The council is has nine members. Understand that one of ours, Ms. Tsunioshi was MIA.
On something of this magnitude?? What's up with that???

zippz

Re: *FIRE MISSION: OAHU SENSITIVE PLACES TESTIOMNY ASAP
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2022, 12:17:52 AM »
bills are very very rarely defeated on the first reading
rest assured there are many working behind the scenes to try and fix as much as we can
be watching this forum for more details...

This is true, first reading is usually just procedural, the introduction of the bill.  Usually it's just a vote and referral to committee.  Normally no one will vote against it, even if they are opposed to it.  Getting 2 no votes and a reservation vote out of 8 council members is rare.  Getting the amount of oral and written testimony we did on first reading is also unusual.  The council asked a lot of questions which is unusual.

Things are looking pretty good so far, and the hearing was above my expectations.