And obviously this person seemed like a "Karen".  Definitely anti-gun.  Started ranting about how Hawaii will change forever and that every person with a gun is a murderous, blood thirsty, mass shooter.

And I've stated here before that I am a "below the radar" type of guy.  I believe that when it comes to firearms, the less people know about me the better.  I believe no one needs to know I'm packing heat if or when I decide to apply for a license and do so.

Anyway I said nothing.  Corrected her a couple of times about the subject when it was obvious she got the information wrong about CCW rules and regulations as set forth by the Chief.  But otherwise tried to remain as neutral as possible.  Everyone is entitled to their opinions. 

I did tell her I believe in the Constitution of the United States and left it at that.  After a while the conversation drifted to something else.  I think she sensed I didn't agree with her when I stated about the constitution.

This was an in-law by the way.  So not a stranger but "family".  Even in my family, only my immediate family knows about my firearms ownership.  And they vowed to respect my request about my firearm ownership anonymity.

How would you guys handle this kind of situation?

assimilation takes time

Depends on the person. All of my close family know I am an avid shooter, including teaching. Folks have their opinion and some ask me. If I sense that they are closed minded, I don’t bother. I may correct misinformation, but would likely pick a time when it’s maybe 2-3 people.

Different story, but one of my best friend’s mom is “everything MSNBC is truth”, especially when it came to Trump hate. She would go on, and on, and on, and on about Trump bad man. My buddies, two brothers aren’t that way. They are closer to right down the middle, like I am. One might lean slightly right. In get together, she’ll ask me about Trump said this or said that. I generally just brush it off and change subject. Once I pushed back with questions on her “facts”. Couldn’t answer any of the questions. Apparently that message was “received”.

Sadly, the only thing some people ever understand is...

if you can say it with a straight face, tell them , "guns are evil..."

I would tell her about all the bloodthirsty mass shooting murderings that Ive done. as well as the ones all my friends have done. As registered firearms owners who passed background checks, we are legally required to conduct blooodthirsty mass shooting murderings, its the law.

And obviously this person seemed like a "Karen".  Definitely anti-gun.  Started ranting about how Hawaii will change forever and that every person with a gun is a murderous, blood thirsty, mass shooter.

And I've stated here before that I am a "below the radar" type of guy.  I believe that when it comes to firearms, the less people know about me the better.  I believe no one needs to know I'm packing heat if or when I decide to apply for a license and do so.

Anyway I said nothing.  Corrected her a couple of times about the subject when it was obvious she got the information wrong about CCW rules and regulations as set forth by the Chief.  But otherwise tried to remain as neutral as possible.  Everyone is entitled to their opinions. 

I did tell her I believe in the Constitution of the United States and left it at that.  After a while the conversation drifted to something else.  I think she sensed I didn't agree with her when I stated about the constitution.

This was an in-law by the way.  So not a stranger but "family".  Even in my family, only my immediate family knows about my firearms ownership.  And they vowed to respect my request about my firearm ownership anonymity.

How would you guys handle this kind of situation?

Even though I've been here over 22 years I'm still considered a mainlander Haole by some.
Most everybody in my family owns guns, I think we have one stark raving liberal and
even she "keeps one under her pillow".
Honestly most, not all, Hawaiians are idiots when it comes to guns.
I suspect it is qutote "Oriental/Asian " culture.  It is how people here are raised,
submission.
Anything that can thwart the authorities is BAD!
Personal freedoms are antithetical to their cultures, be they Japanese, Chinese,
Korean, or what not,
Just my opinion.  I don't expect Hawaii to change and allow gun freedoms,
so we must do it on our own.
 

   Last year I had a "liberal California friend" discuss firearms with me and I convinced him to come shoot.
He did, had a great time and the next time he came to the islands to visit his G-friend, he brought a buddy and they both took my NRA course.
He and his friend returned last week and asked to shoot again.
His G-friends liberal Cali family was also visiting and he convinced them to join the shoot.
    Needless to say, all had a swell time and their opinions on firearms have changed.

  My humble opinion ?
Take her shooting.
Nothing feels better than converting an anti-gun lib ! 

Even though I've been here over 22 years I'm still considered a mainlander Haole by some.
Most everybody in my family owns guns, I think we have one stark raving liberal and
even she "keeps one under her pillow".
Honestly most, not all, Hawaiians are idiots when it comes to guns.
I suspect it is qutote "Oriental/Asian " culture.  It is how people here are raised,
submission.
Anything that can thwart the authorities is BAD!
Personal freedoms are antithetical to their cultures, be they Japanese, Chinese,
Korean, or what not,
Just my opinion.  I don't expect Hawaii to change and allow gun freedoms,
so we must do it on our own.
 

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I don't think it's a racial or cultural thing.
I think it is more dependent on where your family grew up.
If you have to generalize the topic:
Country/ rural type families are more pro-gun.
City slickers are clueless.

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I don't think it's a racial or cultural thing.
I think it is more dependent on where your family grew up.
If you have to generalize the topic:
Country/ rural type families are more pro-gun.
City slickers are clueless.

"City slickers are clueless."
I grew up in SE Los Angeles county.  Inspector and I went to rival high schools
about the same time.
We were City slickers.
That is not the excuse, it is subservience.
Hawaiian citizens like to be slaves.
The concept of Freedom scares them.
That demands personal responsibility
for your fate in life.
Y'all can't blame someone else for YOUR failures.
Scares a lot of people.
Doesn't scare me.
I learn from failure.
 

"City slickers are clueless."
I grew up in SE Los Angeles county.  Inspector and I went to rival high schools
about the same time.
We were City slickers.
That is not the excuse, it is subservience.
Hawaiian citizens like to be slaves.
The concept of Freedom scares them.
That demands personal responsibility
for your fate in life.
Y'all can't blame someone else for YOUR failures.
Scares a lot of people.
Doesn't scare me.
I learn from failure.
 

Where do you live now?

I mentioned in another thread that I have a best buddy who is 100% anti-gun and anti-2a.  He knows I own guns and because we are best friends he respects me but we do have some back and forth when it comes to the subject of guns, gun laws, and the politics behind it.

I'm sure the next time we hang out we'll touch upon the recent SCOTUS decision and CCW in Hawaii.  I think I'll just hug him and say "I love you, my friend" every time his voice exceeds 85 decibels.

   Last year I had a "liberal California friend" discuss firearms with me and I convinced him to come shoot.
He did, had a great time and the next time he came to the islands to visit his G-friend, he brought a buddy and they both took my NRA course.
He and his friend returned last week and asked to shoot again.
His G-friends liberal Cali family was also visiting and he convinced them to join the shoot.
    Needless to say, all had a swell time and their opinions on firearms have changed.

  My humble opinion ?
Take her shooting.
Nothing feels better than converting an anti-gun lib ! 

She is my daughter's husbands mother.  She is in her 70's with a weak heart and health issues.  She just recently recovered from a stroke so I think I'll wait till she gets stronger.

I've extended the invitation to go shooting to my best buddy countless times.  He always turned down my invites.  This guy is really afraid of guns, lol!

I've extended the invitation to go shooting to my best buddy countless times.  He always turned down my invites.  This guy is really afraid of guns, lol!

We fear what we don't understand. I think that explains much of people's sentiments towards guns - towards tools they have no experience with.

She is my daughter's husbands mother. 

Or in other words, your daughter's mother in law.

   Last year I had a "liberal California friend" discuss firearms with me and I convinced him to come shoot.
He did, had a great time and the next time he came to the islands to visit his G-friend, he brought a buddy and they both took my NRA course.
He and his friend returned last week and asked to shoot again.
His G-friends liberal Cali family was also visiting and he convinced them to join the shoot.
    Needless to say, all had a swell time and their opinions on firearms have changed.

  My humble opinion ?
Take her shooting.
Nothing feels better than converting an anti-gun lib ! 

I’ve changed the minds of a few buddies’ significant other. In a couple cases, they were open to coming to the range to shoot, but haven’t yet. However, got things to the point where they were no longer against their husband/BF owning guns and going shooting with me. A couple bought guns of their own. Still working on a couple others.

Not sure if it’s a lib thing. Think a range of flat out ignorance to liberal media and TV. That maddens me most of all.

Where do you live now?

Big island, North Hamakua side.
I don't like large towns or massive sub-divisions.
I'd rather listen to cows and dogs barking at night rather than sirens screaming.
Had to spend a night in Honolulu a year or so ago.  I forgot how loud a city is.
 

Big island, North Hamakua side.
I don't like large towns or massive sub-divisions.
I'd rather listen to cows and dogs barking at night rather than sirens screaming.
Had to spend a night in Honolulu a year or so ago.  I forgot how loud a city is.
 

You're just as enslaved as the rest of us - just by yourself

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I don't think it's a racial or cultural thing.
I think it is more dependent on where your family grew up.
If you have to generalize the topic:
Country/ rural type families are more pro-gun.
City slickers are clueless.

I grew up on Molokai.  Just about everybody I knew had at least one gun in the home. I had many different guns as a teenager but when I graduated from high school I had a 30-30 Winchester, a 7MM Rem Mag, a semi auto 22LR rifle, a 16 and 20 ga shotgun and a 22LR Browning Nomad pistol. My brother in law bought that for me when I was 16 and I transferred it to my name when I was 21.  I also think rural people are more progun than city folks.

I grew up on Molokai.  Just about everybody I knew had at least one gun in the home. I had many different guns as a teenager but when I graduated from high school I had a 30-30 Winchester, a 7MM Rem Mag, a semi auto 22LR rifle, a 16 and 20 ga shotgun and a 22LR Browning Nomad pistol. My brother in law bought that for me when I was 16 and I transferred it to my name when I was 21.  I also think rural people are more progun than city folks.

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Oh! Molokai guy.
Are we related?
My uncle was a police officer in the 60's and an elder in the Mormon church.