We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons (Read 8709 times)

robtmc

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2023, 06:16:03 AM »
So the media called this a Chinese balloon or ballonn from China but when we refer to a virus as Chinese or from CHina we are somehow racist? :crazy:
I continually refer to it as the Chinese virus, much to the rage of liberals. 
Quite enjoyable tweaking them.

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2023, 07:56:38 AM »
Wondering what resolution the equipment on boards is capable of.  I used to work facilities for ISR drones and the resolution on some of the newer stuff they had was amazing, and I wasn't privy to the "guud stuff". 

Kalikikopa

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2023, 08:54:28 AM »
Wondering what resolution the equipment on boards is capable of.  I used to work facilities for ISR drones and the resolution on some of the newer stuff they had was amazing, and I wasn't privy to the "guud stuff".

I talked to someone who couldn't discuss their work, but in the new century he told me about the CIA having cameras on satellites that could read license plates, and find golf balls on the course, in the 80's.

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2023, 09:06:04 AM »
I talked to someone who couldn't discuss their work, but in the new century he told me about the CIA having cameras on satellites that could read license plates, and find golf balls on the course, in the 80's.
While movies like Enemy of the State is "Hollywood", the technology that is in the "public knowledge" realm is quite staggering.  Different topic, but many of us in Oahu are familiar with the "golf ball".  That thing, while practically ancient, is pretty darn amazing in what it can pick up. 

macsak

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2023, 09:22:17 AM »
don't forget about the ICBM silos...

While movies like Enemy of the State is "Hollywood", the technology that is in the "public knowledge" realm is quite staggering.  Different topic, but many of us in Oahu are familiar with the "golf ball".  That thing, while practically ancient, is pretty darn amazing in what it can pick up.

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2023, 09:28:15 AM »
don't forget about the ICBM silos...
"This is known" (in Dothraki accent)

Those are well hidden though. . .

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2023, 09:50:47 AM »
While movies like Enemy of the State is "Hollywood", the technology that is in the "public knowledge" realm is quite staggering.  Different topic, but many of us in Oahu are familiar with the "golf ball".  That thing, while practically ancient, is pretty darn amazing in what it can pick up.

Here's a good explanation of how satellites are placed in orbit and the variables that determine their ability to provide expected contact with or views of the ground.  It also touches on the challenges of avoiding space debris and other active satellites.  Satellites need to be monitored and collision avoidance maneuvers executed when paths intersect.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/OrbitsCatalog

Modern spy satellites in an age of space wars

https://www.dw.com/en/modern-spy-satellites-in-an-age-of-space-wars/a-54691887
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2023, 09:51:00 AM »
While movies like Enemy of the State is "Hollywood", the technology that is in the "public knowledge" realm is quite staggering.  Different topic, but many of us in Oahu are familiar with the "golf ball".  That thing, while practically ancient, is pretty darn amazing in what it can pick up.

Satelites are so yesterday.  Everyone has a smartphone with them or in close proximity. People actually believe they can turn off functions like GPS or other like tracking.  Assume they are always listening/watching.

changemyoil66

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2023, 09:51:43 AM »
Here's a good explanation of how satellites are placed in orbit and the variables that determine their ability to provide expected contact with or views of the ground.  It also touches on the challenges of avoiding space debris and other active satellites.  Satellites need to be monitored and collision avoidance maneuvers executed when paths intersect.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/OrbitsCatalog

Modern spy satellites in an age of space wars

https://www.dw.com/en/modern-spy-satellites-in-an-age-of-space-wars/a-54691887

So Space Force Shuttle Gunner is sounding more and more real.

macsak

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2023, 09:54:54 AM »
of course, our local SME found a reference in "mother earth news" or something like that confirming their existence...

"This is known" (in Dothraki accent)

Those are well hidden though. . .

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2023, 10:00:28 AM »
Here's a good explanation of how satellites are placed in orbit and the variables that determine their ability to provide expected contact with or views of the ground.  It also touches on the challenges of avoiding space debris and other active satellites.  Satellites need to be monitored and collision avoidance maneuvers executed when paths intersect.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/OrbitsCatalog

Modern spy satellites in an age of space wars

https://www.dw.com/en/modern-spy-satellites-in-an-age-of-space-wars/a-54691887
Danke. . . but I have access to "better" info  ;)  ;D

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2023, 10:01:44 AM »
Satelites are so yesterday.  Everyone has a smartphone with them or in close proximity. People actually believe they can turn off functions like GPS or other like tracking.  Assume they are always listening/watching.
Enemy of the State was 1998.  Were you even out of diapers then?   :rofl:

Now Eagle Eye, that's more modern. . . ish

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2023, 10:02:10 AM »
of course, our local SME found a reference in "mother earth news" or something like that confirming their existence...
bruh

changemyoil66

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2023, 10:09:40 AM »
Enemy of the State was 1998.  Were you even out of diapers then?   :rofl:

Now Eagle Eye, that's more modern. . . ish

Not even in high school yet. You old futts.  :rofl:

robtmc

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2023, 10:31:08 AM »
Everyone has a smartphone with them or in close proximity.
Think again.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2023, 10:41:18 AM »
Danke. . . but I have access to "better" info  ;)  ;D

I used to, also.  From my experience, cloud cover seems to be the biggest issue for quality imagery of the ground.

The easiest way to get a good quality image of any location is to tap into the millions of surveillance and security cameras around the world.  The vertical angle from above might catch the top of someone's head in a grainy enlargement, but the face needs to be viewed at a more horizontal perspective unless the person happens to look up toward the satellite.  Same with license plates, etc.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2023, 11:21:43 AM »
Think again.

U need to find the phone that was dropped in your back yard by the random person walking buy.

drck1000

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2023, 11:39:40 AM »
I used to, also.  From my experience, cloud cover seems to be the biggest issue for quality imagery of the ground.

The easiest way to get a good quality image of any location is to tap into the millions of surveillance and security cameras around the world.  The vertical angle from above might catch the top of someone's head in a grainy enlargement, but the face needs to be viewed at a more horizontal perspective unless the person happens to look up toward the satellite.  Same with license plates, etc.
"God's eye" from Fast and Furious (or one of those movies)

Oh, no. . . more folks going buy up tinfoil like CMO. . .  ;D

changemyoil66

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2023, 12:00:00 PM »
"God's eye" from Fast and Furious (or one of those movies)

Oh, no. . . more folks going buy up tinfoil like CMO. . .  ;D

Already sold out. I got the stash and I'm gonna price gouge. Super Bowl causes high demand.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We finally shot down one of the ChiCom spy balloons
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2023, 01:00:45 PM »
Already sold out. I got the stash and I'm gonna price gouge. Super Bowl causes high demand.

Super Bowl?  Is that still a thing?

I thought most people gave up on it when that kneeling/protest crap was tolerated.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw