***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm (Read 2282 times)

changemyoil66

***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« on: February 08, 2023, 09:36:38 AM »
Hearing is on 2/10 @3:05pm

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=685&year=2023

Even if you brandish or inform someone you're carrying a gun at home you will be breaking the law.  So this isn't only in public spaces.

hvybarrels

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2023, 10:59:38 AM »
SECTION 1.  Chapter 707, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:

     "§707-    Brandishing a firearm.  (1)  A person commits the offense of brandishing a firearm if the person:

     (a)  Indicates, by word or conduct, that the person is carrying a firearm;

     (b)  Reveals or exhibits a firearm; or

     (c)  Draws or holds a firearm;

with the intent to terrorize, or in reckless disregard of the risk of terrorizing, another person.

     (2)  Brandishing a firearm is a misdemeanor."

     SECTION 2.  New statutory material is underscored.

     SECTION 3.  This Act shall take effect upon its approval.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

hvybarrels

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2023, 11:04:03 AM »
No mention of self defense situations.

What other criticisms do you have?

Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

changemyoil66

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2023, 11:16:41 AM »
No mention of self defense situations.

What other criticisms do you have?

This not only applies in public, but anywhere. So at home as well.  No mention of not being the initial aggressor. So bad guy could play the victim card.

QUIETShooter

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2023, 12:58:18 PM »
The language of SB 685 leaves a wide open interpretation of brandishing that puts the law-abiding CCW holder at a huge disadvantage and will work severely against them.

The language needs to be addressed.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

QUIETShooter

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2023, 01:11:04 PM »
Just got done submitting my opposition to SB685. 

Thanks for the heads up. :shaka:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2023, 04:20:33 PM »
Bill deferred. So basically dead.

18 support
47 oppose.

Even HPD opposed.

rpoL98

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2023, 10:53:50 PM »
Bill deferred. So basically dead.

18 support
47 oppose.

Even HPD opposed.
only 47 opposed?  a little disappointing, I think.  We're gonna get steam-rollered by Mom's Against Guns, or whatever those Karen's are called.

changemyoil66

Re: ***FIRE MISSION SB 685 due before 2/9 @ 3:05pm
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2023, 11:51:49 AM »
only 47 opposed?  a little disappointing, I think.  We're gonna get steam-rollered by Mom's Against Guns, or whatever those Karen's are called.
This 1 wasnt too important. Oppose or support each had its benefits for those pro 2a.

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