https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/mda-legislature-must-strengthen-conceal-carry-laws/

HONOLLULU (KHON2) — There have been 121 mass shooting in the U.S. since Jan. 1. There have been 7,848 gun-related deaths, and there have been 43 children and 268 teenagers killed with guns in 2023.

Both sides of the debate feel that the other side is misinformed about the safety of guns.

But, one group has a monopoly on caring for those who are murdered in gun violence, moms.

Few will argue with a mother over her loss of a child, and even fewer would begrudge a mother for advocating for a safer society for her children.

2023 marks 10 years since Moms Demand Action was established. The advocacy group seeks to push legislators to consider the dangers of guns when creating laws that expand access to these weapons.

Once you get past a certain age, you question your mother and your Aunts.
 
12,  I think is the legally defined limit,
where you can start to decide things and overrule
Mom and her arbitrary limits.
 

Moms will be moms.

Guns will be guns.

Law abiding responsible citizens will be law abiding responsible citizens.

Criminals will be criminals.

Dysfunctional families will be dysfunctional families.

We can try our best to make EVERYTHING right, but somewhere along the line we have to come to a consensus.

That's just life.....

1 of their spokes woman has been at all but 1 hearing in person for the sensitive places bills, Chiefs Rules, and more.  She always brings a pic of her daughter that committed suicide, but chooses to leave that info out.  She was on the stairs of HPD at the chiefs rules calling to ban mags over 10rds since her daughter was killed.  Then she testifies that her daughter was killed by a single shot to the back of the head.  So what's she grumbling about.

When she testifies for other anti 2a bills not related to the above, she's lost.  She has no talking points.  When she first began testifying, she didn't have a MDA shirt.  Now she has 1 and started a organization.  This tells me she's now being funded and needed to start a non-profit.

I have evidence from her social media about her daughters suicide. She wrote a letter to Barry about it and posted it. She also has prior test if you google her name and it states suicide.  I wanted to call her out during testimony, but was advised not to do so. Our law makers will only believe what she's telling them and don't think deeper that her story changes everytime she goes on the podium.

Her story is something like:

My daughter was murdered, ban 10rd mags
My daughters husband killed her
My daughters husband killed her in their home and he put her in the tub
My daughter was shot in the back of the head with a single bullet
My daughter was investigating sex trafficking
My daughter is part of a mental health support group and was helping sex trafficking victims

Only if you watch or attended all the hearings, would you notice how her story is changing.

For every mom, dad, friend, spouse or sibling that wants to blame guns for the loss of a loved one, there are at least 100 more who are grateful there was a good guy or gal with a gun -- possibly themselves -- who was able to defend against an attacker.  The problem with anecdotes is that not all shootings are the same.  Suicides are different than murders during commission of a crime which are different than murders during domestic disputes.  Wishing there wasn't a gun in the situation is not a solution.  There's no magic spell that can disappear every single gun in the country, nor one that can predict who should be disarmed before they commit an act of violence against an innocent person.

Dr. Suzanna Hupp lost both her parents in a Luby's Cafeteria mass shooting in Killeen, Texas, 1991.  She was disarmed because of a new law that forced her to leave her pistol in the car while the family ate.  Maybe these stories need to be retold for the public to see the negative side of gun control.

Until crime prevention is able to stop violence before it happens, disarming the pool of victims is ridiculously stupid.

For every mom, dad, friend, spouse or sibling that wants to blame guns for the loss of a loved one, there are at least 100 more who are grateful there was a good guy or gal with a gun -- possibly themselves -- who was able to defend against an attacker.  The problem with anecdotes is that not all shootings are the same.  Suicides are different than murders during commission of a crime which are different than murders during domestic disputes.  Wishing there wasn't a gun in the situation is not a solution.  There's no magic spell that can disappear every single gun in the country, nor one that can predict who should be disarmed before they commit an act of violence against an innocent person.

Dr. Suzanna Hupp lost both her parents in a Luby's Cafeteria mass shooting in Killeen, Texas, 1991.  She was disarmed because of a new law that forced her to leave her pistol in the car while the family ate.  Maybe these stories need to be retold for the public to see the negative side of gun control.

Until crime prevention is able to stop violence before it happens, disarming the pool of victims is ridiculously stupid.

Waste of time.
Ren
pointed this out to me
but was off the mark
https://checkyourfact.com/2019/08/30/fact-check-mark-twain-never-argue-fool-onlookers-difference/

Lots more Bible references, but this is not a Godly forum.
So I won't use them.
 

HONOLLULU (KHON2) — There have been 121 mass shooting in the U.S. since Jan. 1.

Ever notice how many liberal hit articles start off with a Big Lie?

Ever notice how many liberal hit articles start off with a Big Lie?

It's more like bending the truth. Typically a mass shooting means 4 people or more.  And the shooter counts as 1 of the 4 people.  So a typical weekend in Chiraq probably has like a few that gets reported and verified.  I'm sure there are many more that are not verified and left out of this count.

It's more like bending the truth. Typically a mass shooting means 4 people or more.  And the shooter counts as 1 of the 4 people.  So a typical weekend in Chiraq probably has like a few that gets reported and verified.  I'm sure there are many more that are not verified and left out of this count.

The anti-gunners use Mother Jones as a source for mass shooting stats.  While the FBI only includes those with 4 or more people dying, MJ includes those in which 4 or more people are shot/injured.  Death is not a requirement to be included.

As usual, when they can't win, they change the rules.

Sign:  "You must be 5 feet tall to enter."

Shorty Liberal:  "I'm changing the number of inches in a foot to 8, which makes me 6 1/2 feet tall!"

The new artform in journalism nowadays:

Bending the truth like a master electrician bends conduit.....