If any of the state bills pass HB1230 or HB984 they would most likely be effective upon signing (7/1).  No one would be able to buy a gun until HPD figures out their new procedure for the law change for an approved handgun safety instructor.  No longer will just a NRA Instructor cert be sufficient and can work autonomously.  New law states they must be approved by HPD.

We saw with CCW, Bruen was in June and the first CCW approved instructor wasn't until December.  Then add in the demand because there is no grandfather clause or no can use Hunters Ed class anymore.

They could also add in the same for rifles.  But def handguns.

And don't sell the ones you already have.

And don't sell the ones you already have.

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yep...good advice
don't be stoopid like me

buy more guns.........sounds like a plan! 

And don't sell the ones you already have.

I recently sold a couple of pistols to two of my best friends. . . so I could buy four other pistols 

If any of the state bills pass HB1230 or HB984 they would most likely be effective upon signing (7/1).  No one would be able to buy a gun until HPD figures out their new procedure for the law change for an approved handgun safety instructor.  No longer will just a NRA Instructor cert be sufficient and can work autonomously.  New law states they must be approved by HPD.

We saw with CCW, Bruen was in June and the first CCW approved instructor wasn't until December.  Then add in the demand because there is no grandfather clause or no can use LIFE class anymore.

They could also add in the same for rifles.  But def handguns.

how come no can use LIFE class?

how come no can use LIFE class?

Cause they want the safety class to cover a bunch of new stuff like suicide prevention, storage of firearms, etc...And all instructors must be approved by HPD, so IDK how online would work.

HB984

"(1)  An approved hunter education course as authorized under section 183D-28[;], unless the applicant seeks to acquire a pistol or revolver, in which case the applicant shall complete a training satisfying the requirements of paragraph (2), (3), or (4);

     (2)  A firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement agency of the State or of any county;

     (3)  A firearms safety or training course offered to law enforcement officers, security guards, investigators, deputy sheriffs, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement by a state or county law enforcement agency; or

     (4)  A firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a  firearms instructor certified or verified by the chief of police of the respective county or a designee of the chief of police or certified by a nongovernmental organization approved for such purposes by the chief of police of the respective county or a designee of the chief of police, or conducted by a certified military firearms instructor; provided that the firearms training or safety course or class provides, at a minimum, a total of at least two hours of firing training at a firing range and a total of at least four hours of classroom instruction, which may include a video, that focuses on:

          (A)  The safe use, handling, and storage of firearms and firearm safety in the home[;], as well as a component on mental health, suicide prevention, and domestic violence issues associated with firearms and firearm violence; and

          (B)  Education on the firearm laws of the State."

how come no can use LIFE class?

My mistake, meant hunters ed

My mistake, meant hunters ed

asking bc I did the LIFE class
also did the hunters ed class too

asking bc I did the LIFE class
also did the hunters ed class too

Either way, you would have to redo it.  And every 4 years.  And LIFE would have to get approved by HPD along with all the other NRA instructors teaching the handgun safety class.

ridiculous how many hoops they want us to jump through in order to have our constitutional rights

All of a sudden all these stoopid new laws "they" trying to put in place.

Shows they don't have public safety in mind.

They want total control over us.

I agree.  Buy as many guns as you possibly can and want.  Ammo too.

Flood HPD with PTA's.

Short summary of bills as written now for permit to acquire.

Long guns- need hunters Ed or new firearms safety course

Pistols - new firearms safety course.  Hunters Ed no longer applies

Training must have been conducted in the past 4 years.

Firearms safety course needs to be conducted by a PD approved firearms instructor and cover updated/extra content.

Must pay a fee for every PTA.

Police will have up to 40 days to approve PTA.

CCW/PTA background checks will be more subjective and intrusive.  Just because you can get one now, doesn't mean you'll get one under the new law.

Permit denials result in firearms confiscation.

Almost everyone will need to redo their training to buy a gun.  There will likely be a time period where almost no one can buy a handgun when this law starts due to police redoing policy, procedures, and forms and instructors are approved and new classes taught.

ridiculous how many hoops they want us to jump through in order to have our constitutional rights

Funny how that works out IRL Free market to the rescue
If the "war on fireworks" is any indication of how this will turn out maybe it's worth stocking up on some light body armor just to wear grocery shopping.

Charge you, and force you to pay for a right?  Sound like “poll tax” anyone?

Even the CCW requirements are overly burdensome and costly. And not issued in a “reasonable timeframe” as required by SCOTUS

Charge you, and force you to pay for a right?  Sound like “poll tax” anyone?

I've been sayng that forever.
I'm no longer a Hawaii voter, my legal residence, and voting is once again WA state.
WA state is fuked up politically but nowhere near as bad as Honolulu run Hawaii.
I can buy guns, ammo, and go shooting without begging the Democrat party for permission.
I will still physically reside here in Hawaii with my wife who is still a legal Hawaii resident,
voter, and homeowner as am I.
Fuk Honolulu and it's gun laws.
 

ridiculous how many hoops they want us to jump through in order to have our constitutional rights

And the majority of voters seem to think that is just fine.

Told my wife I wanted a house in Arizona so i could get away from the feeling of living "behind enemy lines".
Thd hostility directed at non-liberals here is sometimes shocking.

Tomorrow I fly over to spend a month feeling like I am not a refugee.

Took your advice, CMO, and picked up a rifle the other day that has been on my radar for a while 

Took your advice, CMO, and picked up a rifle the other day that has been on my radar for a while 

Im looking at a p320 FCU. Safe no can fit regular gun, even with spit. But can fit this.

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