The gun angle of illegal cockfighting (Read 1993 times)

ren

The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« on: April 19, 2023, 05:51:14 PM »
In the end its always the gun's fault...and there's the fault of Trump's somewhere...
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/fatal-hawaii-shooting-shows-dangers-of-popular-cockfights/article_471f6216-5cfe-5337-89f1-9788639bbf39.html

Some in Hawaii worry that violence linked to cockfighting will grow more volatile in a state that previously had largely escaped the scourge of gun violence seen elsewhere in the U.S.

Saturday's shooting was among the worst since 1997, when seven workers were shot and killed at a Xerox Corp. warehouse. Other shootings that grabbed headlines were a man who killed a taxi driver and a couple taking photos at a Honolulu scenic lookout in 2006 and a highway shooting spree that left one woman dead and two others injured in 2011.

Chris Marvin, a Hawaii resident with Everytown for Gun Safety, said these types of shootings will increase with the proliferation of guns in the islands.

Data from the Hawaii attorney general’s office says the number of number of firearms registered annually in Hawaii climbed 319% from 2000 through 2021.

“We are going to start to replicate the trends that we’ve seen in the mainland,” Marvin said. “And in the rest of the country, there is more than one mass shooting per day. We don’t hear about all of them."


and it's Trump's fault
Cockfighting has been illegal in all 50 states, but hadn't been illegal in U.S. territories until 2019, when a law signed by former President Donald Trump banning all animal fighting went into effect.

The argument that cockfighting is a cultural practice has been used in lawsuits challenging the ban, but with little success. The U.S. Supreme Court turned away a challenge to the federal law brought by individuals and organizations that argued Congress exceeded its power in applying the ban to Puerto Rico.
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Waverider82

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2023, 09:23:10 PM »
There's already more guns than people in Hawaii. If it was a problem, we would have already known by now.

changemyoil66

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2023, 10:12:32 PM »
Marvin is a cuck thats getting paid to be anti 2a. He has no passion or facts to back his opinion up. He thought u can open carry a rifle here and used Rittenshouse as an example.

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groveler

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2023, 10:30:10 PM »
Marvin is a cuck thats getting paid to be anti 2a. He has no passion or facts to back his opinion up. He thought u can open carry a rifle here and used Rittenshouse as an example.

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You can open carry a rifle here in Hawaii
You just need a hunting license and be in a DLNR hunting area
in hunting season.
Those are Ludicrous  requirements in the USA :love:
but Hawaii is .................
Hawaii.
I have a Hawaii hunting license but will do most my hunting in WA state,
You guys are too fuked up.
 :love:

ren

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2023, 06:59:34 AM »
I cringe when people say "gun violence". An inanimate tool is incapable of such a thing. That is a FACT.

https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/vigil-held-for-maili-victims-new-details-revealed-as-suspects-charged/

Family and community members prayed for an end to gun violence.

“My heart goes out to the families, my biggest condolences. We lost community members and a father of six kids; and now, we have a widow,” said Waianae Coast community leader Rocky Naeole.

“The key was gun violence. We don’t need that here in Waianae. Let this end right here. It’s only going to cause chaos, and we don’t want chaos here in Waianae,” he added.


and the "need" to make illegal acts MORE illegal

https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/chicken-fight-shooting-victims-honored-in-maili-vigil/article_fb122840-e014-11ed-805e-abbbb10608c5.html
State Representative Darius Kila gave a speech during the vigil, and says that this act of unnecessary gun violence highlights the changes that he hopes to help bring to Hawaii law.

“There are some things that are coming out in the legislature to tighten up some of the regulations around firearms, but also knowing that we have to come down on criminal activity, criminals who take advantage of the judicial system and the lack of enforcement,” Kila said.


Great job by the media to flip this illegal activity into a gun issue
« Last Edit: April 21, 2023, 07:22:30 AM by ren »
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QUIETShooter

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2023, 07:28:15 AM »
You can open carry a rifle here in Hawaii
You just need a hunting license and be in a DLNR hunting area
in hunting season.
Those are Ludicrous  requirements in the USA :love:
but Hawaii is .................
Hawaii.
I have a Hawaii hunting license but will do most my hunting in WA state,
You guys are too fuked up.
 :love:

Why?  Because we live in Hawaii and make do the best we can?  Not all of us are what you think we are. :love:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2023, 08:19:14 AM »
Green Acres is the place to be....
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QUIETShooter

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2023, 08:56:46 AM »
Green Acres is the place to be....

.....keep Manhattan and give me that countryside......? ;)
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2023, 10:36:11 AM »
Marvin is a cuck CLUCK thats getting paid to be anti 2a. He has no passion or facts to back his opinion up. He thought u can open carry a rifle here and used Rittenshouse as an example.

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Kalikikopa

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2023, 08:45:10 AM »

"number of firearms registered annually in Hawaii climbed 319% from 2000 through 2021."
Aren't stats like this pro 2a? If guns were the problem, then with a 319% proliferation of firearms, shouldn't there be a 319% rise in gun crimes?

Of course we have our call to ban guns because of what happened at an ILLEGAL cock fight. Of course the people gathering at an illegal event will be all for following laws.

QUIETShooter

Re: The gun angle of illegal cockfighting
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2023, 09:23:22 AM »
Ha ha.  Law abiding citizens at an illegal cockfight.  I'm sure those two "gentlemen" with firearms had them on their person legally. :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.