https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/04/21/live-hpd-announce-update-horrific-attack-that-left-woman-with-severe-chemical-burns/?outputType=amp

If the ghost gun part is real and not an over exaggerated turn on the story then this is another case of how a law was supposed to prevent this crime.

1. Ghost gun, it’s not registered because of its ghost nature.
2. No gun registration = no right to CCW

I see two wrong things here that laws were supposed to prevent this crime from happening. With this new sensitive places bill hopefully that’s gonna fall flat on its face, if it passed how are you supposed to defend yourself against a criminal with a gun as per example here.

https://www.khon2.com/video/police-chief-discusses-no-stand-your-ground-in-hawai%ca%bbi/8581649/

We should have a super-sensitive places law. I hope that this "sensitive places" bill works because there are infinite applications. For example, roads should be an alcohol-free / sensitive area. Schools should be a sensitive place for anti-bullying and anti-indoctrination. Sidewalks should be sensitive places free from all crime. Why stop there? Let's declare the entire State of Hawaii a sensitive place - where there are no crimes at all because crime, even ONE crime is UNACCEPTABLE!
If that doesn't work let's add tiers to these sensitive places. The lowest tier being "sensitive" next, "super-sensitive", then "super-duper sensitive" and last "UNACCEPTABLE sensitive". We could layer these tiers with large fines going to favorite political slush funds like Save Da Honu Inc. or OHA.

Maybe it wasn't written into the bill that sensitive places would prohibit ghost guns? Did someone educate the suspect before he summoned the spirits for a ghost gun? Do we need an exorcist to explain to those kindred spirits that ghost guns are not allowed to be on hallowed grounds as defined by the sensitive places law? Where's the Bishop? Someone call the Dalai Lama!

 

Ghost gun laws are being challenged at federal and state levels.  The prohibitions are unconstitutional as they restrict individuals from making their own guns for personal use.  Serial numbers, registrations and other government-imposed requirements treat the individual like a manufacturer.  They are not.

Also, there are the cases that prohibit enforcement of these and other registration laws if anyone creating a ghost gun tries to comply.  Telling the government you made a ghost gun, but you are in some category of prohibited owners, you have just had your 5th amendment rights violated -- forced to tell the cops you broke the law.

Many other arguments as to why these laws violate constitutional rights.

Flappy,
Are all your guns registered ?
You got the plan.. why not sue ?
Google is a wonderful thing but the real world is out there.

So many thoughts in this thread.

" roads should be an alcohol-free / sensitive area." Roads are alcohol free, the problem it is is all consumed BEFORE they hit the road.
"making their own guns for personal use." Wouldn't this only exclude law enforcement/military/Secret service? Aren't most citizens guns for personal use?

And then there is the thought that , hypothetically, if I wanted to commit genocide against my own people, without it actually look like genocide, I think i would remove guns from the law abiding citizens, while not punishing criminals who use guns,  then make personal protective devices illegal. Which makes me wonder, why is the government so against me being able to protect myself in my own home , no "stand your ground law", and making personal body armor illegal?

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"making their own guns for personal use." Wouldn't this only exclude law enforcement/military/Secret service? Aren't most citizens guns for personal use?

I believe you can “manufacture” a firearm for YOUR OWN personal use, but if you ever transfer it to someone else, it needs a serial number…? 

I believe you can “manufacture” a firearm for YOUR OWN personal use, but if you ever transfer it to someone else, it needs a serial number…?

That was the rule federally.  Hawaii wanted a serial number on it before you take it to the 80.1% stage of completion.

.Ghost gun rules now require a serial on any block of material that you may/might/can/intend to mill into a firearm (i.e. receiver or frame).

Serial numbers are an inconvenience compared to the requirement to pass a background check before purchasing frame or receiver kits.