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ren

Shut down the trail and the range
« on: May 15, 2023, 12:42:54 PM »
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changemyoil66

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2023, 01:00:35 PM »
Tschiyama sounds like a cuck.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2023, 01:18:39 PM »
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Tsuchiyama lives in the neighborhood fronting Koko Head District Park on
Kaumakani Street. The community park is where visitors go to get to the
Koko Head trailhead. He says there should be a sign warning hikers that
the trail is adjacent to a shooting range with lead and contaminants.

There is a sign warning of the adjacent range.  Unless there's a measurement of "lead and contaminants" along the trail that indicates a health risk, adding that is a waste of resources and only serves to scare hikers using an unverified danger.

Last line of signs:

Shooting Range directly below the Tramline.

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oldfart

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2023, 02:05:40 PM »
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A couple of criticisms here:
1- why is the Bay area's best FREE LOCAL newsletter concerned with Hawaii which is literally, an ocean away? They got plenty of sh--t to write about in their own town.(literally)
2- It's a free rag...ie. you get what you pay for
3- Here is a stupid statement...
"the tests came back negative for lead in the air,” Nathan Serota, a spokesperson for the City and County of Honolulu Department of Parks and Recreation,
told SFGATE in an email. Testing did not include areas outside the shooting range complex."
Why bother testing outside the range if there is no airborne particles IN the range? What happened to common sense?

4- The author of the article is a digital content creator. She has to come up with a something to sell every few days.
How much thought and research can you come up within a few days?
In fact, she submitted an article about Hanauma Bay on 5/11 then the KHSC article on 5/13.

The bottom line is that the article is BS, quickly thrown together to make a few bucks.
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mrgaf

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2023, 02:57:41 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on May 15, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
Tschiyama sounds like a cuck.

And he can go suck Water’s pecker and vice versa! :thumbsup:
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dogman

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2023, 08:00:28 PM »
There's two of these that I know of.
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hvybarrels

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2023, 08:27:00 PM »
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powder monkey

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2023, 09:06:31 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 18, 2023, 01:46:04 PM by powder monkey »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2023, 01:21:26 PM »
I just happened to think -- do Japanese and other foreign visitors understand the term "Shooting Range?"

It's a common term we in the US see everywhere.  But in places like Japan, where guns are few and far between, would they immediately understand a warning sign saying that?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I do know US English isn't always understood -- even by English-speaking people.

If we need "Land Mine Field" signs in many languages or picture for non-English language visitors, maybe the same applies to gun range warnings?
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dogman

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2023, 08:37:17 PM »
Sign states the obvious.
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dogman

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2023, 09:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on May 18, 2023, 01:21:26 PM
I just happened to think -- do Japanese and other foreign visitors understand the term "Shooting Range?"

It's a common term we in the US see everywhere.  But in places like Japan, where guns are few and far between, would they immediately understand a warning sign saying that?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I do know US English isn't always understood -- even by English-speaking people.

If we need "Land Mine Field" signs in many languages or picture for non-English language visitors, maybe the same applies to gun range warnings?
I've been doing the "stairs" once or twice every Saturday morning this year. I have only seen one person act disturbed after reading the firearms sign while the range was shut down. I have heard some mention, oh there's a gun range down there but seems like nobody except that one guy really cares. Most first timers are too physically stressed to worry about the gun fire these last two weekends. At least I know when it's eight o'clock.
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dogman

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2023, 08:53:21 PM »
This is new.
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dogman

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2023, 08:54:36 PM »
$427,000.00
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ren

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2023, 09:02:25 PM »
Quote from: dogman on July 02, 2023, 08:54:36 PM
$427,000.00

For that small thing?

Hi. Greg! You're lying again!
https://www.sfgate.com/hawaii/article/hawaii-residents-want-koko-head-trail-closed-18096703.php
Tsuchiyama isn’t the only one who is concerned about stray bullets. “I found a bullet that kind of washed up on a trail behind my house,” said resident Greg Knudsen, in a 2012 story by Hawaii News Now, “and it was just sitting there on the trail and where else could it come from?” Knudsen also mentioned a bullet flying past him on the trail and that residents discovered bullets on rooftops in 2009

Remember when you showed up to that meeting with a cartridge you claimed that was fired from the range?!
« Last Edit: July 02, 2023, 09:07:26 PM by ren »
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dogman

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2023, 09:08:51 PM »
Quote from: ren on July 02, 2023, 09:02:25 PM
For that small thing?
Before macsak comments . . . They had to remove a much larger structure first. Helicopter transport is expensive.
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macsak

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2023, 09:10:45 PM »
dammit!

heads...

Quote from: dogman on July 02, 2023, 09:08:51 PM
Before macsak comments . . . They had to remove a much larger structure first. Helicopter transport is expensive.
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ren

Re: Shut down the trail and the range
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2023, 09:13:31 PM »
Quote from: dogman on July 02, 2023, 09:08:51 PM
Before macsak comments . . . They had to remove a much larger structure first. Helicopter transport is expensive.

its only expensive because ..well...

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