2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen... (Read 1669 times)

macsak

changemyoil66

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2023, 01:16:53 PM »
So for those who cannot watch,

Hunter Biden's lawyers are arguing since Bruen that the drug question is invalid when he bought this gun and was a drug user.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2023, 01:22:21 PM »
So for those who cannot watch,

Hunter Biden's lawyers are arguing since Bruen that the drug question is invalid when he bought this gun and was a drug user.

He lied on the 4473.  That's a crime whether or not the specific question he lied about is somehow unconstitutional.

Quote
I certify that my answers in Section B are true, correct, and complete. I have read and understand the Notices, Instructions, and Definitions on ATF Form
4473. I understand that answering “yes” to question 21.a. if I am not the actual transferee/buyer is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law,
and may also violate State and/or local law. I understand that a person who answers “yes” to any of the questions 21.b. through 21.m. is prohibited from
receiving or possessing a firearm. I understand that a person who answers “yes” to question 21.n.1. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm,
unless the person answers “yes” to question 21.n.2. and provides the documentation required in 26.d. I also understand that making any false oral or
written statement, or exhibiting any false or misrepresented identification with respect to this transaction, is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal
law, and may also violate State and/or local law.
I further understand that the repetitive purchase of firearms for the purpose of resale to predominantly
earn a profit without a Federal firearms license is a violation of Federal law.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 01:44:35 PM »
He lied on the 4473.  That's a crime whether or not the specific question he lied about is somehow unconstitutional.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

Either way, this helps the 2a. Cause if a judge rules in his favor, then anyone who lied on this form in DE and was found guilty, will benefit. Where's MDA or ET on this? Crickets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2023, 02:06:51 PM »
Either way, this helps the 2a. Cause if a judge rules in his favor, then anyone who lied on this form in DE and was found guilty, will benefit. Where's MDA or ET on this? Crickets.

He's being investigated by the DOJ, meaning any charges that result would be federal.

Any impact would be nationwide, not just in DE.

But, you're right.  if Hunter gets convicted of a felony, daddy will be in the position of having to override the DOJ and a federal court via a pardon.  Or, will Biden keep his promise to be tough on gun crime?

It's a lose-lose situation for Creepy Joe.

All this just before an election.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2023, 02:41:13 PM »
He's being investigated by the DOJ, meaning any charges that result would be federal.

Any impact would be nationwide, not just in DE.

But, you're right.  if Hunter gets convicted of a felony, daddy will be in the position of having to override the DOJ and a federal court via a pardon.  Or, will Biden keep his promise to be tough on gun crime?

It's a lose-lose situation for Creepy Joe.

All this just before an election.

Our corrupt POTUS and son deserve everything coming their way. :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2023, 03:52:19 PM »
The sad thing is that he so desperately wanted to be where he is with every fiber in his being, and now it seems to have turned into a curse.

« Last Edit: June 01, 2023, 04:35:36 PM by hvybarrels »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

groveler

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2023, 09:56:43 PM »
He lied on the 4473.  That's a crime whether or not the specific question he lied about is somehow unconstitutional.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download
"He lied on the 4473."
That form is un-Constitutional as far as I'm concerned.
Just like you guys that beg for a PTA,
Hunter B is a POS, but how he handles guns is his
problem till he hurts someone.
I'm not a lawyer, but I know intent pays a big
the part of crime and how we treat it.
For example even if I had guns in Hawaii I'd never register
them.
That is a crime.  What is my intent?
I just want to hunt and protect myself and family.
State of Hawaii wants to violate my 2A rights.
 :wtf:
Thankfully I have the resources to own guns in a "free"
blue state and FedEx guns in when I want to hunt Herckels
in PTA.
And I don't have to fill out a frigging 4473.
 :wave:




eyeeatingfish

Re: 2A BREAKING NEWS: Biden Deploys Lawyers to Argue FOR Bruen...
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2023, 10:15:33 PM »
Either way, this helps the 2a. Cause if a judge rules in his favor, then anyone who lied on this form in DE and was found guilty, will benefit. Where's MDA or ET on this? Crickets.

It might help others but it is no guarantee. A legal claim can be made that someone is being prosecuted differently but an attorney can always point to some tiny difference to justify why Biden got a break but another accused shouldn't get that break. If it made its way up to a higher court as an appeal though that might actually help.