So our gov knew the location of the Titanic sub days ago. USCG has the equipment for deep sea rescue, but didnt deploy. Now we know why.

Nothing is a conspiracy....

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So our gov knew the location of the Titanic sub days ago. USCG has the equipment for deep sea rescue, but didnt deploy. Now we know why.

Nothing is a conspiracy....

The submersible was named Titan.  Poor choice of names (I'm not superstitious).

I must have missed the memo.  What conspiracy are you referring to now?

The submersible was named Titan.  Poor choice of names (I'm not superstitious).

I must have missed the memo.  What conspiracy are you referring to now?

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They located wreckage and waited till now to announce, which is why the rescue sub wasnt sent in. Just as air ran out, they magically found the wreckage.Saying nothing found yet and suffocation happens is a sad story.

Or distraction for the Biden crime families lack of fair punishment. Attention shifts.

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They located wreckage and waited till now to announce, which is why the rescue sub wasnt sent in. Just as air ran out, they magically found the wreckage.Saying nothing found yet and suffocation happens is a sad story.

Or distraction for the Biden crime families lack of fair punishment. Attention shifts.

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Where did you hear they located the wreckage before today? 

A classified surveillance system captured a noise consistent with a catastrophic failure of a pressure vessel around the time the Titan lost comms.  That information was passed to incident command, who used it to scope the search area.  They continued searching because they couldn’t know with certainty 1) if it actually was a catastrophic implosion, and 2) if it WAS a catastrophic implosion, if it was the Titan or maybe another sub.

If all you look for are conspiracies, you’ll find them everywhere…

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They located wreckage and waited till now to announce, which is why the rescue sub wasnt sent in. Just as air ran out, they magically found the wreckage.Saying nothing found yet and suffocation happens is a sad story.

Or distraction for the Biden crime families lack of fair punishment. Attention shifts.

If you trust those reports, then you should also trust them when they said at the beginning that even IF they found the crew alive, they don't have many options at that depth for a rescue.  i don't even think an ROV with strong enough propulsion could carry a hook on a cable that far to try and pull them up.  The ROV itself certainly couldn't carry it to the surface.  They didn't send in a "rescue sub," simply because rescue was going to be 99% impossible.

Add to that the fact the Atlantic is a massive place to search for something.  Guess how long the Titanic was lost before someone located it?

From the day it sank, until the day the wreckage was located, it took 73 years, four months, and 18 days to discover the final resting place of the RMS Titanic.  That's when looking for something that's slightly larger than Titan.

Without knowing what happened, it's difficult to know where to even start looking.  The currents at the wreckage are very strong, and one person I watched on an interview described how they were on the Titan and the current was holding them next to a massive propeller.  It took all the skill the operator had to get out of that without crashing into the blades.  So, even starting your search at the wreckage means going in all directions.  Unless you get very lucky and pick the right direction, the chances of finding them would be very low.

The story began with a sudden loss of communication, and no contact afterward.  That alone pointed toward a complete failure in the crew compartment. 

They only continued the search and rescue because that's what we do -- as human beings.  That's what you'd hope they'd do if you were in that situation and with nobody knowing whether you're alive.

You couldn't pay me any amount to go in that submersible and yet you have stupid rich people who pay $250k for a chance to ride in that death trap. I hope it imploded.  That would be a far more merciful death that waiting for 96 hours watching your oxygen run out.  I don't think it had restroom facilities either.

You couldn't pay me any amount to go in that submersible and yet you have stupid rich people who pay $250k for a chance to ride in that death trap. I hope it imploded.  That would be a far more merciful death that waiting for 96 hours watching your oxygen run out.  I don't think it had restroom facilities either.

I saw a few graphics showing a toilet onboard.

earlier today my youtube suggestion was a video about a ghislaine maxwell connection to the sub
i didn't watch it because i still have to restock on tinfoil at costco...

https://zerohedge.com/political/distraction-questions-swirl-over-timing-sub-story-biden-bombshells-hit-target

Late Thursday the Wall Street Journal reported that "A top secret military acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard what the U.S. Navy suspected was the Titan submersible implosion hours after the submersible began its voyage," and that "the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday."

What's more, it's not like the military took days to try and figure out what the sound was. "While not definitive, this information was immediately shared with the Incident Commander to assist with the ongoing search and rescue mission."

So, the Biden administration knew on Sunday (while not definitive), that the submarine sounded as if it had imploded hours into its journey. What's more, they let everyone think the passengers were alive.

Jesus Christ, if the military immediately shared this information with the Incident Commander to assist  with the ongoing search and rescue mission,
why couldn't this information be shared to the public? instead of turning this whole fiasco into a soap opera, gut wrenching, hand wringing, drama queen headline ratings joke.

Poor guys were dead before the story even began.

So what was that banging sound that was posted?  The guys who make stuff up didn't talk to each other with the game plan.

Jesus Christ, if the military immediately shared this information with the Incident Commander to assist  with the ongoing search and rescue mission,
why couldn't this information be shared to the public? instead of turning this whole fiasco into a soap opera, gut wrenching, hand wringing, drama queen headline ratings joke.

Poor guys were dead before the story even began.

This was the plan, to cause a distraction. If the implosion was made aware immediately, then there's no more story.  But give the public hope that the people could still be alive. Combine the 96hrs of oxygen, the banging sound they heard, all gives hope and can stretch out the main headlines, which is a distraction. Notice how the implosion and wreckage were all announced shortly after oxygen was planned to run out.

BRB going Costco for more tin foil.

It wouldn't have mattered in disseminating the report about the implosion.  nothing anyone could've done to save the crew. From what I read death is instantaneous in a millisecond. The time it takes for the brain to process stimuli is about 10-15 ms. There were 6000 PSI of external pressure on the sub at that depth. From what I read it would be akin to an aircraft traveling at Mach 3 and slamming into a stationary object.

I think through James Cameron's network he heard about the Navy's information. Also interesting is that Cameron and others cautioned them about the composite hull construction of carbon fiber. I think the hull delaminated. It had titanium endcaps but the hull was about 5 inches of carbon fiber. Cameron noted that a better design would have been a homogenous metal like titanium or steel? and that there is a difference when there are external vs. internal pressure exertion.

It wouldn't have mattered in disseminating the report about the implosion.  nothing anyone could've done to save the crew. From what I read death is instantaneous in a millisecond. The time it takes for the brain to process stimuli is about 10-15 ms. There were 6000 PSI of external pressure on the sub at that depth. From what I read it would be akin to an aircraft traveling at Mach 3 and slamming into a stationary object.

Which is why the USCG equipment didn't deploy. They all knew what happened early on and didn't want to waste resources.  So this was a poorly planned distraction.

This was the plan, to cause a distraction. If the implosion was made aware immediately, then there's no more story.  But give the public hope that the people could still be alive. Combine the 96hrs of oxygen, the banging sound they heard, all gives hope and can stretch out the main headlines, which is a distraction. Notice how the implosion and wreckage were all announced shortly after oxygen was planned to run out.

BRB going Costco for more tin foil.

It's so sad and disgusting to think that they (gov./media/whoever they are it's the same thing) would lead the public along on a hope fest that these people were still alive.  I also think that if they shared the implosion data when it was first reported by the military, a lot of people wouldn't have followed the story as much.

Whether it was ratings driven or used as a distraction, it's a sad state either way.

It's so sad and disgusting to think that they (gov./media/whoever they are it's the same thing) would lead the public along on a hope fest that these people were still alive.  I also think that if they shared the implosion data when it was first reported by the military, a lot of people wouldn't have followed the story as much.

Whether it was ratings driven or used as a distraction, it's a sad state either way.

I had a friend ask why a rich guy would risk his life.  And I told him could be 1 of many things. Maybe he's like James Cameron and really into the Titanic.  Cameron has made multiple  journey's to the Titanic in an approved sub.  Could be he's so rich that he's done everything there is to do. So why not spend the $ to see in person something that not many people saw.  I would assume maybe space travel would be on the list, but maybe he doesn't like pulling G's and deep diving is easier.  IDK if he reached out to Camerons people or like scientist and say donate $1,00,000 for a trip to see the Titanic.

The news is now saying the creator of the Titan used "loop holes" to get by. 1 they are claiming is that since he isn't selling the sub, he doesn't need the safety approvals by the US government agency.  Guess the loop hole is the tickets for a seat.  The other that they're claiming is that since the Titanic is in international waters, the US agency doesn't have jurisdiction over the Titan and they can dive without approvals/certifications.  Could this be something bigger, now the US Gov will pass more laws/regulations with submersibles?  Like the crypo thing, plenty famous people loss money, which will help the Gov to regulate it later cause they will have the support.

It's so sad and disgusting to think that they (gov./media/whoever they are it's the same thing) would lead the public along on a hope fest that these people were still alive.  I also think that if they shared the implosion data when it was first reported by the military, a lot of people wouldn't have followed the story as much.

Whether it was ratings driven or used as a distraction, it's a sad state either way.

an acoustic detection doesn't give a clear picture of what happened or if it was related to the sub. There was some hope. Just like hearing something at night. You go out and get visual on it before making a conclusion.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/obama-calls-obscene-inequality-news-coverage-oceangate-sub-tragedy-sinking-migrant-ship

Who will cover the costs of the search?  Probably in the hundreds of millions of dollars, all told. Why do we taxpayers have to cover the costs of an accident caused by a reckless private operator, at an unpermitted thrill ride in International waters with a handful of Super wealthy clients.

Who will cover the costs of the search?  Probably in the hundreds of millions of dollars, all told. Why do we taxpayers have to cover the costs of an accident caused by a reckless private operator, at an unpermitted thrill ride in International waters with a handful of Super wealthy clients.

Maritime code (unwritten). If someone is in trouble, regardless of the why/how people/governments help. Same with the homemade rafts of people trying to come to Florida from Cuba. The problem would be though if someone is pregnant and gives birth on the US Navy/CG ship.  This is "US soil", which would make the child a US citizen.  This was asked in an ethics class at Annapolis on the Military Channel.

Deadliest Catch show has similar every now and then, another vessel is in trouble, so the ship diverts of it's course which cost a lot in fuel to try to reach the distressed vessel.  Even if the troubled ship is hours away. 1 could argue that being in the Bearing Sea is wreckless just so they can catch crab.

But I get what you're saying. But read my post above, there is no permit needed since he's in international waters and doesn't sell the sub.