You've been staying at Holiday Inn Express a lot lately, huh?

Swoooooshhhh. I don't understand this reference.

What I find interesting is that there's no "seal/gasket" for the front area where you get in. Seems like metal on metal. I mean, I'm no expert so IDK how doors like this work.  But I remember being on the Missouri Battleship and I think I saw a gasket on their watertight doors. I don't recall what I saw on the Bowfin sub.

A surface ship can use rubber seals on water tight doors because they are not submersed.  The seal would have to remain intact at ocean depths for a sub.

Most sub hatches I've seen are made with either an interlocking series of channels in the metal or it has a deep "cover" that fits flush against the deck, enclosing the actual hatch cover.

The ocean pressure is pushing on the hatch, helping to seal it.  It's more a problem of keeping that hatch from folding in than keeping the thing closed tightly.

There was nothing to rescue .. it imploded.

And yet they lied to the public about it to keep Hunter Biden documents out of the headlines

There was nothing to rescue .. it imploded.

SWOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHHH

Even this topic. Continuity remains.

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What I find interesting is that there's no "seal/gasket" for the front area where you get in. Seems like metal on metal. I mean, I'm no expert so IDK how doors like this work.  But I remember being on the Missouri Battleship and I think I saw a gasket on their watertight doors. I don't recall what I saw on the Bowfin sub.

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I dunno how they do it, but they need something better than rubber.   At 50 feet about the lowest you'll  get in a battleship, water is 37PSI.  It doesn't have to be designed  for more than that cause you'd be at the bottom of the ocean and screwed.

6,000 PSI at titanic depths.

And yet they lied to the public about it to keep Hunter Biden documents out of the headlines

And spend millions of our dollars to do so.
all the Democrats in the white house had to do was make a few phone calls,
they own the media.
 

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I dunno how they do it, but they need something better than rubber.   At 50 feet about the lowest you'll  get in a battleship, water is 37PSI.  It doesn't have to be designed  for more than that cause you'd be at the bottom of the ocean and screwed.

6,000 PSI at titanic depths.

I assume a battleships or like military vessel's doors are water tight and designed if the ship sunk below 50 feet.  But I have no education on the matter, which is why I'm asking.  The "seal" for the front of the Titan also doesn't have interlocking channels that Flapp suggest. But flat metal about 4 inches wide or so. No reports of it ever leaking so I guess it works.

I assume a battleships or like military vessel's doors are water tight and designed if the ship sunk below 50 feet.  But I have no education on the matter, which is why I'm asking.  The "seal" for the front of the Titan also doesn't have interlocking channels that Flapp suggest. But flat metal about 4 inches wide or so. No reports of it ever leaking so I guess it works.

The front hatch can't be opened from inside.  it's secured from outside using 17 or 18 large bolts depending on which news article is accurate.  That's the only opening in the passenger compartment.

So, the pressure from the ocean depths will be working to seal the surfaces of the hatch-to-sub just as much as it'll be trying to force water through any unsealed portion of it. If the surfaces are machined perfectly flat, I don't see why any seal or gasket would be needed as long as the people screwing it down ensure it's free of foreign matter or debris.

I found one person with some experience being in the sub saying there are spots on the one hatch for 18 bolts, but they normally only use 17 due to the 18th being up high.  He stated that while he understands the tremendous pressure would keep the hatch firmly closed, he questions "why not use all 18?"

He has a point.  If they were comfortable deciding to save a step securing the hatch 100% because it required extra effort, then what else were they skipping?

I found one person with some experience being in the sub saying there are spots on the one hatch for 18 bolts, but they normally only use 17 due to the 18th being up high.  He stated that while he understands the tremendous pressure would keep the hatch firmly closed, he questions "why not use all 18?"

He has a point.  If they were comfortable deciding to save a step securing the hatch 100% because it required extra effort, then what else were they skipping?

Wow. I mean, why make holes for 16 or 15 or 12?  Guess 7 minute abs comes into question.

they've already retrieved the nosecone and other parts of the "sub"

Google.

They located wreckage and waited till now to announce, which is why the rescue sub wasnt sent in. Just as air ran out, they magically found the wreckage.Saying nothing found yet and suffocation happens is a sad story.

Or distraction for the Biden crime families lack of fair punishment. Attention shifts.

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A couple things I have heard on the issue
1. The USA has sound recording equipment all over the ocean. The existence isn't exactly private but the extent of the capabilities may not be. This may be one reason why they didn't announce anything combined with fact #2.
2. From my understanding, the listening devices heard a distinct explosion in that area. If the sub imploded then there would never have been a recovery option.
3. Equipment was rushed out there but it wasn't likely that it would have arrived on time to be set up and made much of a difference.
4. I don't think this story really distracted about Hunter's extremely light sentence. I saw/heard the story all over, even on NPR.

A couple things I have heard on the issue
1. The USA has sound recording equipment all over the ocean. The existence isn't exactly private but the extent of the capabilities may not be. This may be one reason why they didn't announce anything combined with fact #2.
2. From my understanding, the listening devices heard a distinct explosion in that area. If the sub imploded then there would never have been a recovery option.
3. Equipment was rushed out there but it wasn't likely that it would have arrived on time to be set up and made much of a difference.
4. I don't think this story really distracted about Hunter's extremely light sentence. I saw/heard the story all over, even on NPR.

Re-read what I posted about the USCG sub not being deployed. They knew what happened and didn't want to waste too much resources. But at the same time, the gov has to try and make a show. Equipment was rushed out, and it would have made a diff if the sub was found intact and in time. Like they located it quickly before oxygen ran out (96 hrs). So yes, it would have made a difference hypothetically.

Even till today, there's stories popping up on my feed about the Titan, nothing about Hunter. So a 1-2 day story and is gone compared to over a week. Or if it was a Trump kid, it would be still in the news. You have been tricked by the fake news's tactic. Good thing I'm here to point it out so you don't get fooled again.

Re-read what I posted about the USCG sub not being deployed. They knew what happened and didn't want to waste too much resources. But at the same time, the gov has to try and make a show. Equipment was rushed out, and it would have made a diff if the sub was found intact and in time. Like they located it quickly before oxygen ran out (96 hrs). So yes, it would have made a difference hypothetically.

Even till today, there's stories popping up on my feed about the Titan, nothing about Hunter. So a 1-2 day story and is gone compared to over a week. Or if it was a Trump kid, it would be still in the news. You have been tricked by the fake news's tactic. Good thing I'm here to point it out so you don't get fooled again.

You're way too generous --  both in your willingness to help him and in your appraisal of his ability to stop being fooled in the name of "objectivity."

You're way too generous --  both in your willingness to help him and in your appraisal of his ability to stop being fooled in the name of "objectivity."

Even though we don't agree and thought experiments are sometimes used, I get what he's asking and he does use points to justify his statements. Those points don't have to be correct, but at least he tries. Compared to others who ignore all logic and have no points as to why they ignored all logic.  This is why I'm willing to go into some details.  But if the opinion is totally off the reservation, then I won't waste time.

And yet they lied to the public about it to keep Hunter Biden documents out of the headlines

Where exactly did “they” lie?

Re-read what I posted about the USCG sub not being deployed. They knew what happened and didn't want to waste too much resources. But at the same time, the gov has to try and make a show. Equipment was rushed out, and it would have made a diff if the sub was found intact and in time. Like they located it quickly before oxygen ran out (96 hrs). So yes, it would have made a difference hypothetically.

Even till today, there's stories popping up on my feed about the Titan, nothing about Hunter. So a 1-2 day story and is gone compared to over a week. Or if it was a Trump kid, it would be still in the news. You have been tricked by the fake news's tactic. Good thing I'm here to point it out so you don't get fooled again.

They didn’t KNOW what happened. They picked up sounds consistent with a catastrophic implosion in the general area of the Titanic wreck. Not the same as knowing, and if somebody I loved were on that submersible, I wouldn’t want rescuers to say “They heard something that sounded like an implosion. Well, I guess that’s it then, let’s go have a beer.”

Do you have a link to information about this USCG sub?

Yes, the Navy verified sounds of an implosion in the vicinity of where the sub was.  And they shared this information with the head of rescue operations.

But they did not share it with the general public.   Even if this information is not what the family members want to hear, you still need to share it.  Sure, the Navy could not know for sure those sounds were the sounds of that submarine imploding and they even said so when sharing the information to the head of rescue operations.

Just share the information and let people decide whether they want to hold on to hope or not.  Why they didn't share this information is why people are all bent out of shape.

And it doesn't mean you give up on rescue operations.  You keep trying until all options and avenues are exhausted or physical evidence tells you to stop.

Re-read what I posted about the USCG sub not being deployed. They knew what happened and didn't want to waste too much resources. But at the same time, the gov has to try and make a show. Equipment was rushed out, and it would have made a diff if the sub was found intact and in time. Like they located it quickly before oxygen ran out (96 hrs). So yes, it would have made a difference hypothetically.

Even till today, there's stories popping up on my feed about the Titan, nothing about Hunter. So a 1-2 day story and is gone compared to over a week. Or if it was a Trump kid, it would be still in the news. You have been tricked by the fake news's tactic. Good thing I'm here to point it out so you don't get fooled again.

What news sources do you use? If I heard NPR of all places covering the story I think you are hard pressed to claim the lefty media is suppressing the story. I mean you even had multiple reporters grilling KJP over the Hunter Biden story recently, this isn't a story you'' find only on Fox News anymore. 

Sorry but I don't buy the conspiracy theory about the sub. It doesn't seem realistic. Even if they had begun moving equipment on day one, from the news I saw/heard it would have taken 2-3 days just to get there. It wasn't your average search and rescue of course.

Yes, the Navy verified sounds of an implosion in the vicinity of where the sub was.  And they shared this information with the head of rescue operations.

But they did not share it with the general public.   Even if this information is not what the family members want to hear, you still need to share it.  Sure, the Navy could not know for sure those sounds were the sounds of that submarine imploding and they even said so when sharing the information to the head of rescue operations.

Just share the information and let people decide whether they want to hold on to hope or not.  Why they didn't share this information is why people are all bent out of shape.

And it doesn't mean you give up on rescue operations.  You keep trying until all options and avenues are exhausted or physical evidence tells you to stop.

It may have been something considered classified or sensitive and if so that would explain why they didn't make it public.