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ren

Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« on: June 23, 2023, 05:42:16 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/23/police-responding-apparent-barricade-situation-palisades-area/

Police shot and killed a suspect who was armed with knives and a rifle during a barricade situation in Pearl City on Friday morning, HPD Chief Arthur “Joe” Logan said.

Around 4:10 a.m., officers were dispatched to a report of a burglary at a home on Kalauipo Street in Manana.

Logan said when responding officers arrived, the resident of the home reported that her ex-boyfriend was inside the home, armed with knives. She also said that he had threatened to shoot coworkers and officers.

Officers heard the suspect yelling from inside the home that he was not going to go to jail, Logan added.

At that point, Specialized Services Division officers were called to the scene.

Officers made numerous attempts to convince the suspect to come out, but they were unsuccessful.

At around 6:30 a.m., smoke was observed coming from a bedroom window. About 10 minutes later, the suspect emerged from the home, armed with two knives. He then ran next door and went upstairs to the back balcony, where officers had been previously posted, Logan said.

“The suspect grabbed an unattended rifle and was holding it when officers returned to the balcony,” Logan said. “One of the officers fired at the suspect, followed by a second officer who fired from the neighbor’s yard. A third officer fired at the suspect from the bottom of the stairwell.”
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Bud808

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2023, 06:22:20 PM »
Wow nobody noticed when he ran next door where HPD was set up, went up the stairs and grabbed an HPD rifle that had been left unattended. that could have turned out really really bad, glad no one but the bad guy
« Last Edit: June 23, 2023, 06:59:26 PM by Bud808 »
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2023, 06:35:42 PM »
Poor training.  Unattended rifle.  By HPD.  Honolulu's "Finest".

Supposedly the Finest.  Or so they say.  Or once believed. :rofl:
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Gordyf

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2023, 07:30:23 PM »
There is no excuse for an "unattended rifle"
Basic firearm safety.
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RSN172

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2023, 07:57:11 PM »
Leaving the rifle unattended by HPD is so unbelievably stupid I have no words for it.

I wonder what the news media would have said if he used an unattended HPD rifle and killed one or more HPD officers with it.
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hvybarrels

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2023, 08:08:12 PM »
If any of us displayed that level of incompetence they would nail us to the wall
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2023, 08:19:41 PM »
Honestly, if that HPD officer was in the Army or Marines God help him.  An unattended rifle in the military is a no-no.
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groveler

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2023, 08:54:03 PM »
Quote from: RSN172 on June 23, 2023, 07:57:11 PM
Leaving the rifle unattended by HPD is so unbelievably stupid I have no words for it.

I wonder what the news media would have said if he used an unattended HPD rifle and killed one or more HPD officers with it.
Since they routinely refer to it as "Gun violence"
I presume they blame the gun it magically pulls the trigger and
the criminal that is holding it is innocent.
Never call it criminal violence.

Hard to believe you guys have to beg these
police for permission to buy guns or conceal carry.

 
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2023, 11:54:27 PM »
Unattended rifle? That is certainly odd, curious to know more about that one
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2023, 03:32:22 AM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on June 23, 2023, 11:54:27 PM
Unattended rifle? That is certainly odd, curious to know more about that one

That's an example of the trained professionals some think are the only ones who should be allowed firearms.

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QUIETShooter

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2023, 07:17:32 AM »
When seconds count, HPD is just minutes away.

And sometimes, like Santa, they leave gifts........
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randay

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2023, 07:46:34 AM »
gf probly wishes they were married now.
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oldfart

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2023, 08:09:52 AM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on June 23, 2023, 08:08:12 PM
If any of us displayed that level of incompetence they would nail us to the wall
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There are so many things I would like to say about this shooting....

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ren

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2023, 08:32:48 AM »
perhaps they should make officers go through the same requirements to acquire as the rest of the people  NRA safety course etc
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2023, 08:39:25 AM »
Quote from: ren on June 24, 2023, 08:32:48 AM
perhaps they should make officers go through the same requirements to acquire as the rest of the people  NRA safety course etc

Let them wait 145 plus days like the CCW applicants and see how they like it.
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oldfart

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2023, 08:53:23 AM »
Quote from: ren on June 24, 2023, 08:32:48 AM
perhaps they should make officers go through the same requirements to acquire as the rest of the people  NRA safety course etc
...
That's just one of the many things I wanted to say.🤣
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ren

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2023, 08:58:30 AM »
meant to say that the requirements should apply to their duty firearms. Every duty firearm

About 5 years in San Diego there was a an unattended bolt action that was sitting in the ground outside of a police vehicle. No officers in the vehicle and immediate vicinity. I just kept walking.I forgot what stadium the police vehicles were at.
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rpoL98

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2023, 12:12:41 PM »
does SSD wear body cams?
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mrgaf

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2023, 04:31:50 PM »
Quote from: ren on June 24, 2023, 08:32:48 AM
perhaps they should make officers go through the same requirements to acquire as the rest of the people  NRA safety course etc

Wouldn’t help….HPD is too stupid to understand….
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oldfart

Re: Hope they don't categorize this as a "gun violence" crime
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2023, 05:13:49 PM »
Quote from: mrgaf on June 24, 2023, 04:31:50 PM
Wouldn’t help….HPD is too stupid to understand….
....

 :rofl:
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