As written in H.R.S., a rifle magazine that is able to be used in a pistol (as defined by H.R.S.) is limited in capacity to 10 rounds.

Right or wrong (this isn't what I'm questioning), because H.R.S. has a seperate definition for pistols and assault pistols and assault pistols are banned in Hawaii, certain magazines greater than 10 rounds are not clearly banned.

I'm wondering however, if a pistol, NOT an assault pistol as defined by H.R.S., is made that utilizes a rifle magazine, would this result in a Statewide ban of all >10 capacity magazines of the same type or would it only apply to the owner of the pistol?

TIA

The way I understand it is that if the magazine fits in a pistol, banned or not, it is limited to 10 rounds.

yes, that's the strict definition of the law
most stores (i can only think to security equipment that does not) will sell 30 round AR mags, despite the fact that they fit in AR pistols
the law is not enforced (so far as i know), but technically, they are illegal
same goes with ruger 10/22 mags and others too

aloha

steve

The way I understand it is that if the magazine fits in a pistol, banned or not, it is limited to 10 rounds.

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Young Guns will sell 30rd mags blocked at 10rd.

As written in H.R.S., a rifle magazine that is able to be used in a pistol (as defined by H.R.S.) is limited in capacity to 10 rounds.

Right or wrong (this isn't what I'm questioning), because H.R.S. has a seperate definition for pistols and assault pistols and assault pistols are banned in Hawaii, certain magazines greater than 10 rounds are not clearly banned.

I'm wondering however, if a pistol, NOT an assault pistol as defined by H.R.S., is made that utilizes a rifle magazine, would this result in a Statewide ban of all >10 capacity magazines of the same type or would it only apply to the owner of the pistol?

TIA

So if Browning were to introduce a non-assault pistol that used M14 mags, for example? I think, based on how Hawaii has interpreted the law so far, that M14 mags of greater-than-10-round capacity would instantly become illegal.

Need to get rid of the mag cap period to avoid these type of confusion

They will sell 30rd mags blocked at 10rd.

Yes they will, and still charge you regular price!!!

They make a pistol version of everything now, so this whole thing is lame...

Not sure but wouldn't it be OK if the mag well had some kinda channel cut and the mag riveted so it doesn't fit a pistol version?

This is lame because we can't have assault pistols here in the first place, so what does it even matter? 

Yes they will, and still charge you regular price!!!

why would they charge you less?  if anything, the mag would be more expensive.

its stupid, in any case.

They make a pistol version of everything now, so this whole thing is lame...

Not sure but wouldn't it be OK if the mag well had some kinda channel cut and the mag riveted so it doesn't fit a pistol version?

This is lame because we can't have assault pistols here in the first place, so what does it even matter? 

What matters is us not continuously asking questions we don't really want the answer to =p.

I dont think anybody really understands what the legislature meant with this law besides them. It sounds like it only applies to pistols but could also mean more. I think that's why sec equipment only sells them to LEOs since they cater to them lot. Just in case something happens, they'll still be in business. Plus it looks like they're doing perfectly fine the way they're doing stuff at this moment.

This topic has been discussed before:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=338.msg1900#msg1900

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=2935.0

Bottom line is that any magazine capable of being used in a pistol (whether that pistol is legal in Hawaii or not, and remembering that Hawaii defines a "pistol" as anything with a barrel less than 16 inches) is technically illegal.

Yes I know that they sell higher capacity magazines at some stores, but that does not make them (the magazines) "legal." Just ask yourself if butterfly knives are for sale at the swap meet or other locations? Yes, right?

[§134-53]  Butterfly knives; prohibitions; penalty.  (a)  Whoever knowingly manufactures, sells, transfers, possesses, or transports in the State any butterfly knife, being a knife having a blade encased in a split handle that manually unfolds with hand or wrist action with the assistance of inertia, gravity or both, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
   
Does the fact that you can buy a butterfly knife fairly easily make it legal to own one?

This topic has been discussed before:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=338.msg1900#msg1900

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=2935.0

Bottom line is that any magazine capable of being used in a pistol (whether that pistol is legal in Hawaii or not, and remembering that Hawaii defines a "pistol" as anything with a barrel less than 16 inches) is technically illegal.

Yes I know that they sell higher capacity magazines at some stores, but that does not make them (the magazines) "legal." Just ask yourself if butterfly knives are for sale at the swap meet or other locations? Yes, right?

[§134-53]  Butterfly knives; prohibitions; penalty.  (a)  Whoever knowingly manufactures, sells, transfers, possesses, or transports in the State any butterfly knife, being a knife having a blade encased in a split handle that manually unfolds with hand or wrist action with the assistance of inertia, gravity or both, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
   
Does the fact that you can buy a butterfly knife fairly easily make it legal to own one?

Exactly how I interpided the law when I read it as HiCarry said. Quite awhile back I asked ATF and they said its a State issue, so I asked HPD and they said I could own the mags as long as they couldn't be used in a pistol. And we went into the discussion about certain mags could be used in pistols deemed illegal in Hawaii and no one should own those firearms to begin with, so basically they are not enforcing the law as written, a gray area for sure, and I'd leave it at that and be thankful. Now Hi-cap mags greater than 10-rds intended for legal Pistols that aren't blocked at 10, not rifles are clearly a NO-NO.

While this has been discussed before, what the OP actually asked hasn't. It's not his fault (or hers, I guess I'm profiling) that the topic degenerated into a rehash!

While this has been discussed before, what the OP actually asked hasn't. It's not his fault (or hers, I guess I'm profiling) that the topic degenerated into a rehash!

Tom, as usual, you are correct....I think the answer is that it would be illegal for everyone and not just the owner of that pistol.