searching for information on the internet isn't research.

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searching for information on the internet isn't research.

i suppose you still go to the library to research topics?

Do you only use current copies of newspapers and journals, or do you also use microfiche?

i suppose you still go to the library to research topics?

Do you only use current copies of newspapers and journals, or do you also use microfiche?

research is more than that. Anyone who finished a capstone project for a bachelors or master would know that. You may find the topic of research in other avenues as well. Research is formulating a hypothesis, investigating it with the gathering of data, analyzing the data and coming to a conclusion. Doing research by searching the internet or going to the library reading magazines and quoting those magazines is like calling a script kiddie a full-fledged hacker.
Maybe colleges or similar institutions may accept that now but when I did my initial project paper we were warned about what was and what wasn't research. I did help a friend out with her MBA in later years and it was a disaster. She had an F. Why? because she copied and pasted directly from the internet. No questions to the validity of the sources. Maybe that's why we are in this culture war? 

Senile?

You:  Seems different than the one they released.

CNN admitted they were using a "photo of a photo," which means they could have edited it since it wasn't the official one.  That seems to be the one without the lapel pin.

Another 10 seconds of reading, and i found that tidbit.

And booking photos, just like police reports, are public records.  Using them for fund raising is not illegal.

Good job at quoting me. I said the photos were different and they are in fact different.

Arrest photos are public record, at least in some jurisdictions. (I have read into this before and some sources suggested they weren't in certain jurisdictions)
Having said that, being public record doesn't inherently mean people can then use the photos for any and all purposes they want. The image of the police badge you find on a police website is public, anyone can go and download it but that doesn't mean they can reproduce it without permission. Either way it doesn't really matter because I was just speculating on why they might have made a fake booking photo.

My money is on the one the news is using being the real one.

research is more than that. Anyone who finished a capstone project for a bachelors or master would know that. You may find the topic of research in other avenues as well. Research is formulating a hypothesis, investigating it with the gathering of data, analyzing the data and coming to a conclusion. Doing research by searching the internet or going to the library reading magazines and quoting those magazines is like calling a script kiddie a full-fledged hacker.
Maybe colleges or similar institutions may accept that now but when I did my initial project paper we were warned about what was and what wasn't research. I did help a friend out with her MBA in later years and it was a disaster. She had an F. Why? because she copied and pasted directly from the internet. No questions to the validity of the sources. Maybe that's why we are in this culture war?

i was just yanking your chain.

Everyone who actively searches for information and knowledge toward a specific purpose and with a defined question to answer is conducting research.

Research can be:
Approaching strangers in malls with an iPad or clipboard to get answers to a questionnaire;
Going to a factory for a tour;
Attending a political rally;
Interviewing lawmakers and other government officials;
Gathering raw data from direct sources and running your own analyses using statistical
   and other accepted methods of viewing data -- nowadays visualization tools are very
   popular as they go beyond charts and graphs to identify and visualize trends, relationships
and other patterns to better "see" how the information acts upon, and is acted upon, other data.
Talking story with people who lived the events you are reading about;
Watching well-sourced documentaries;
and so on.

And, yes, doing as much of that on the Internet as possible -- given the technology we have available -- is research.  The 'Net makes all that faster, easier and allows for gathering much more data than ever before.

What someone does with that research is a totally different animal.  We have but to mention Manmade Climate Change to see how research can be misused or interpreted using a bias or predisposed set of conclusions, or Joe Biden and Barrack Obama to see how words they found from other speeches can be plagiarized and used as their own.  The internet just makes it easier for the abusers. However, tools are available that can quickly find the source material plagiarizers might have used.

I don't see any real difference between your friend stealing passages from the Internet and someone who copies passages from a bound encyclopedia -- other than the latter is a bit more work having to retype it as opposed to copy & paste.

 

That's why we are in these stupid arguments. You have one person that grabs shit and pretends to be a culinary chef, blends it into some kind of shit salad and serves it. Ever had people say they "researched" a car before they bought it and showed you all the brochures they collected and various articles written about it in Car & Driver? They never researched jack shit. They read a bunch of sales literature influencing them to buy the car. One can not research a brand new 2025 whatever car because there is no valid data on it.
Similar example with shooters who say "I researched this LARP Inc. barrel". No you didn't - If you did you would've bought a sufficient sample size to test and gather data. "Oh but on Amazon it got 10 star reviews bra"

I learned a lot from all the members of this forum ever since I found it and joined.

For me there's still a lot to learn as far as doing credible research but the biggest thing I need to learn is to not mouth off without knowing all the information that is out there.  A lot of my comments and opinions are based on my frustrations and emotions.  I feeeel too much, lol!

I'm trying to get better at that.

 

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That's why we are in these stupid arguments. You have one person that grabs shit and pretends to be a culinary chef, blends it into some kind of shit salad and serves it. Ever had people say they "researched" a car before they bought it and showed you all the brochures they collected and various articles written about it in Car & Driver? They never researched jack shit. They read a bunch of sales literature influencing them to buy the car. One can not research a brand new 2025 whatever car because there is no valid data on it.
Similar example with shooters who say "I researched this LARP Inc. barrel". No you didn't - If you did you would've bought a sufficient sample size to test and gather data. "Oh but on Amazon it got 10 star reviews bra"

So, in your mind, research has a specific process and set of defined categories of sources.  Deviating from that definition causes the effort to no longer be research, but ... blind acceptance of someone else's opinions?

Anyone doing research for something other than a news article or high school thesis must learn to think critically -- at least to the point of being capable of discerning data and facts from opinion and fiction.

How many times have so-called journalists written articles "debunking' satire from The Babylon Bee and other satire sites?  Those pieces could have contained one sentence: This is obviously satire, and anyone who believes it needs to go ask their mother what is safe for them to read.

School papers are supposed to teach students how to research.  if your friend learned why she got that "F", then at least her tuition, time and having to retake the class (assumed) were not entirely wasted.

In our real lives, the amount of research needed is in proportion to the importance of the question -- i.e. what's the worst thing that could happen if you're wrong?  That scale of importance has "I/Someone could die" on one end, and "This is 100% useless information/opinion and will never affect my life" at the other end.

if i'm curious about something that's far from affecting me, I might Google it to get some more info on the subject or the person presenting it.  Sometimes that little bit of additional information might clarify what, why and how the topic might or might not be interesting to me.  That constitutes research to me -- a basic search to see if there's anything more available online.  No skills, no process, and no defined definitions.  Just me and my critically thinking brain doing the bare minimum above taking the writer's or speaker's word for everything.

 

It's interesting that the people who support this witch hunt don't understand concepts.  Imagine if Trump were to do this to any of his apponents.

So, in your mind, research has a specific process and set of defined categories of sources.  Deviating from that definition causes the effort to no longer be research, but ... blind acceptance of someone else's opinions?

Anyone doing research for something other than a news article or high school thesis must learn to think critically -- at least to the point of being capable of discerning data and facts from opinion and fiction.

How many times have so-called journalists written articles "debunking' satire from The Babylon Bee and other satire sites?  Those pieces could have contained one sentence: This is obviously satire, and anyone who believes it needs to go ask their mother what is safe for them to read.

School papers are supposed to teach students how to research.  if your friend learned why she got that "F", then at least her tuition, time and having to retake the class (assumed) were not entirely wasted.

In our real lives, the amount of research needed is in proportion to the importance of the question -- i.e. what's the worst thing that could happen if you're wrong?  That scale of importance has "I/Someone could die" on one end, and "This is 100% useless information/opinion and will never affect my life" at the other end.

if i'm curious about something that's far from affecting me, I might Google it to get some more info on the subject or the person presenting it.  Sometimes that little bit of additional information might clarify what, why and how the topic might or might not be interesting to me.  That constitutes research to me -- a basic search to see if there's anything more available online.  No skills, no process, and no defined definitions.  Just me and my critically thinking brain doing the bare minimum above taking the writer's or speaker's word for everything.

 

the term research gets thrown around too casually and most do not understand it. Over time, its watered down. People just read stuff without any academic rigor or critical thought. Saw something on TikTok?! Saw something on FaceBuk? An article from a sponsor? Oh, that's research alright.... It doesn't mean anything anymore. So go do your "research" and let's see how valid your points are and if they work in the real world or in Tanagra.

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the term research gets thrown around too casually and most do not understand it. Over time, its watered down. People just read stuff without any academic rigor or critical thought. Saw something on TikTok?! Saw something on FaceBuk? An article from a sponsor? Oh, that's research alright.... It doesn't mean anything anymore. So go do your "research" and let's see how valid your points are and if they work in the real world or in Tanagra.

Thanks for the explanations. 

Everyone has triggers and pet peeves.  Some can't stand others chewing bubble gum, loud slurping and hogging the sidewalk. 

I see yours includes certain words people use on the Internet.

You might want to take a minute and realize that when someone does or says something that doesn't literally cause you injury, your reaction to it is an attempt to exert control over that person.

Meanings of words morph over time. This past century is a testament to that.  In computers, the vernacular is full of words borrowed or stolen from other areas.  e.g. I just finished using my router to mortise hinges in my front door.  Now my Internet is down.

It is tough to communicate when the generations follow ours uses words in totally different ways than we expect. We find ourselves having to relearn everything we thought we knew, or swim against the tide by arguing about vocabulary differences.

I stopped caring about the words people use when the definition of the word "is" was questioned by an impeached president.   

PRESIDENT CLINTON: It depends on what the meaning of the
word "is" is. If the – if he – if "is" means is and never has been
that is not – that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was
a completely true statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/bctest092198_4.htm

Yeah, i researched that so others wouldn't have to!   

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This isn't nothing but it also isn't the whole story. What happened with Trump is substantially different than what Democrats have tried in the past. They can't claim to have no skeletons in their closet though

This isn't nothing but it also isn't the whole story. What happened with Trump is substantially different than what Democrats have tried in the past. They can't claim to have no skeletons in their closet though

What is being done to Trump has never been seen in US history. 

It's interesting that the people who support this witch hunt don't understand concepts.  Imagine if Trump were to do this to any of his apponents.

That is kind of true of a lot of voter bases. People with general ideas about an issue but not much of an understanding. I see it among many who are against Trump and many who are for Trump.

What is being done to Trump has never been seen in US history.

In a way, yes. But what Trump has done has never been seen in US history either....

In a way, yes. But what Trump has done has never been seen in US history either....

What has he done, specifically, that has never been done in US history?

Curious how much the administrations, actions and policies of the previous 44 presidents were so different than Trump's.

Also, since you didn't specify presidents, you need to explain how nobody in US history has ever done what Trump has done.