how come no one is discussing vivek? (Read 10718 times)

changemyoil66

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2023, 03:38:55 PM »
He is anti ukraine, thinks 911 was an inside job and other nut job conspiracies.   At this point I hope Chris wins.

Buildings just fall by themselves (WTC7).

ren

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2023, 03:41:10 PM »
He is anti ukraine, thinks 911 was an inside job and other nut job conspiracies.   At this point I hope Chris wins.

You are waycist.
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QUIETShooter

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2023, 04:02:38 PM »
Buildings just fall by themselves (WTC7).

And that famous statement:  "Pull it"........Not pull them or pull out.  They mentioned that statement meant pull out the firefighters/first responders. 

You don't say "Pull it" if you meant that. :wave:

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Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2023, 04:22:26 PM »
He is anti ukraine, thinks 911 was an inside job and other nut job conspiracies.   At this point I hope Chris wins.

Show me where he ever said he was "anti Ukraine."

Not giving them money to spend fighting Russia would be the same whether it is Ukraine or some other country not a part of NATO.

Biden isn't pro Ukraine.  He's pro Ukrainian president -- the guy that has the evidence that Biden and his son were involved in shady deals there.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2023, 08:08:36 PM »
You are waycist.
...
 :rofl: I saw what you did  :rofl:
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hvybarrels

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2023, 08:25:04 PM »
  At this point I hope Chris wins.

Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

QUIETShooter

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2023, 08:41:07 PM »


He keeps up these movements and at least he'll win the battle of the scale.  Weight scale that is.... :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

aletheuo137

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2023, 07:39:10 AM »
 

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groveler

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2023, 09:25:05 AM »


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Democrats are stupid.
This sets a precedent.
The politicians are all dirty and fair game now,
$50 bounty for ears and scalps.
"Kill'em all and let God sort it out".
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Jaco808

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2023, 11:29:22 AM »
I’m so glad he’s anti Ukraine hopefully we stop giving money to Ukraine and it can be put to better use like say helping rebuild Lahaina.

Saying that the government lied about what happened in 9/11 does not mean he thinks it was an inside job.

The new Republican voter base is here to stay. Chrony establishment Republicans like every single candidate besides Vivek will not have a shot in hell at winning.

A defeated Russia is nothing but good news. It weakens China.  Removes one of our main advisories. All for very little money.   Far cheaper than any of our other recent wars.  Most of the money  for Ukraine remains in the USA providing countless jobs.   No reason why we can't fund ukraine and fix Maui. Its not a either or choice.

If this is the new GOP.  The USA will become one of democrats.  I will never vote for a MAGA republican.  There's a reason why biden won.  It wasn't cause he was the best choice, he was the least worst option.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2023, 11:57:24 AM »
A defeated Russia is nothing but good news. It weakens China.  Removes one of our main advisories. All for very little money.   Far cheaper than any of our other recent wars.  Most of the money  for Ukraine remains in the USA providing countless jobs.   No reason why we can't fund ukraine and fix Maui. Its not a either or choice.

If this is the new GOP.  The USA will become one of democrats.  I will never vote for a MAGA republican.  There's a reason why biden won.  It wasn't cause he was the best choice, he was the least worst option.

If you believe Ukraine will defeat Russia with or without our treasure and materials, you're delusional.

Russia is still a nuclear power.  It will take a 3rd World War to defeat Russia.  Most thought the break up of the Soviet Union was a defeat.  Doesn't seem to be the case, does it?

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Russia - 6,255 nuclear warheads
United States of America - 5,550 nuclear warheads
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-nuclear-weapons

Also, trying to destroy Russia won't stop China's global expansion.  If Russia's on the ropes, China has the resources to back-stop their war effort, just like they did in Korea and Vietnam.

Why are you so pro-war?  There are diplomatic and economic measures that have proven in the past to keep Russia from getting too aggressive.  The #1 reason the Ukraine invasion happened when it did is it was under Biden's weak presidency -- one that caters to China -- and not under Trump.  Trump proved in Syria that Russia doesn't intimidate him.

The war in Ukraine started 549 days ago.  That's Feb 24, 2022, if you do the math.  Not a difficult problem to understand why under this US administration.  Nothing between Russia and Ukraine changed between the Trump and Biden tenures other than the name on the Oval Office door.

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Russia started growing its military presence around Ukraine – including in
Belarus, a close Russia ally to the north of Ukraine – in late 2021 under
various pretenses while remaining vague on its intentions. By December of
that year, tens of thousands of Russian troops were hovering on the border,
virtually surrounding the country and stoking tensions that led to a call
between Putin and U.S. President Joe Biden.

Fears escalated in early 2022 as the number of Russian forces surrounding
Ukraine increased. Biden and Putin talked again, U.N. Security Council sessions
were called to address the crisis, and numerous leaders from NATO, the U.S.
and other countries called on Russia to de-escalate or face retaliation in some
form. The most recent estimates – prior to the invasion – put the number of
Russian troops on the border at close to 200,000.

A principal demand of Russia is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, a military
alliance between 28 European countries and two North American countries dedicated
to preserving peace and security in the North Atlantic area. Ukraine is one of just a
few countries in Eastern Europe that aren’t members of the alliance. The Kremlin in
general views NATO expansion as a “fundamental concern,” according to a translated
readout of a Jan. 28, 2022, call between Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron.

It’s noteworthy, however, that NATO likely has “no intention right now” to admit
Ukraine to the organization, says William Pomeranz, the acting director of the Kennan
Institute at the Wilson Center, a non-partisan policy forum for global issues.

“I think NATO, and the invitation for Ukraine to join NATO at some point in the future, is
simply just a pretext to potentially invade Ukraine,” he says, referring to Russia. “Ukraine
is not a member of NATO, it doesn't have any of the NATO guarantees, and so there is
no hint that Ukraine will become a member of NATO soon.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2022-02-24/explainer-why-did-russia-invade-ukraine

Sounds like Putin cooled his jets (no pun intended) while Trump was in charge.  As soon as Biden was on the job, he started his build up.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2023, 12:13:17 PM »
cool story, bro...

A defeated Russia is nothing but good news. It weakens China.  Removes one of our main advisories. All for very little money.   Far cheaper than any of our other recent wars.  Most of the money  for Ukraine remains in the USA providing countless jobs.   No reason why we can't fund ukraine and fix Maui. Its not a either or choice.

If this is the new GOP.  The USA will become one of democrats.  I will never vote for a MAGA republican.  There's a reason why biden won.  It wasn't cause he was the best choice, he was the least worst option.

ren

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2023, 12:57:54 PM »
A defeated Russia is nothing but good news. It weakens China.  Removes one of our main advisories. All for very little money.   Far cheaper than any of our other recent wars.  Most of the money  for Ukraine remains in the USA providing countless jobs.   No reason why we can't fund ukraine and fix Maui. Its not a either or choice.

If this is the new GOP.  The USA will become one of democrats.  I will never vote for a MAGA republican.  There's a reason why biden won.  It wasn't cause he was the best choice, he was the least worst option.

a very weak opinion without supporting information about a "weakened China" All of your arguments are just that. Emotive. Irrational.
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QUIETShooter

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2023, 12:58:36 PM »
A defeated Russia is nothing but good news. It weakens China.  Removes one of our main advisories. All for very little money.   Far cheaper than any of our other recent wars.  Most of the money  for Ukraine remains in the USA providing countless jobs.   No reason why we can't fund ukraine and fix Maui. Its not a either or choice.

If this is the new GOP.  The USA will become one of democrats.  I will never vote for a MAGA republican.  There's a reason why biden won.  It wasn't cause he was the best choice, he was the least worst option.

Russia didn't enter this fray to one day back down.  Yeah, go ahead and poke the bear but you gotta do it the right way.  This isn't it.  A Russia backed into a corner will use the nuclear option.  If geographically it was the US instead of Russia, the US would have definitely done the same.  For Russia it literally means the enemy are at the gates.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2023, 08:19:57 PM »

Kalikikopa

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2023, 10:08:21 PM »
WHen i see him in interviews, he has some of the same energy that Bill Clinton had. He can energize younger people, I agree with the national identity philosophy, and the fact that he isn't an old guy is definitely a plus. However, as Chris Christy pointed out, He not only sounds like Obama, he used his words. If you watch enough interviews with him, you may get a feeling like he is a good talker, but not sure about him.

eyeeatingfish

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2023, 10:56:53 PM »
I had heard about him a little before the debate, that he was full of energy and a good talker. Wasn't that impressed in the debate. He has already been caught giving completely opposite statements on issues. He had some interesting stances in the debate but I kind of agree with one person who said he was like a snake oil salesman.

oldfart

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2023, 04:29:13 AM »
It takes a really superior intelligence to deliver an eloquent speech like that with no teleprompter.
I'm impressed. Remember that was when he was in high school, not a recent speech.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2023, 04:38:50 AM »
It takes a really superior intelligence to deliver an eloquent speech like that with no teleprompter.
I'm impressed. Remember that was when he was in high school, not a recent speech.

But, according to that gal on some vlog/podcast video that tried to question his qualifications, he was never student body or class president.  So, he's not qualified for US President.

Seemed like she was more interested in finding something to make herself sound more qualified to run than listening to what he had to say.

 :popcorn:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jaco808

Re: how come no one is discussing vivek?
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2023, 08:49:27 AM »
If you believe Ukraine will defeat Russia with or without our treasure and materials, you're delusional.

Russia is still a nuclear power.  It will take a 3rd World War to defeat Russia.  Most thought the break up of the Soviet Union was a defeat.  Doesn't seem to be the case, does it?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-nuclear-weapons

Also, trying to destroy Russia won't stop China's global expansion.  If Russia's on the ropes, China has the resources to back-stop their war effort, just like they did in Korea and Vietnam.

Why are you so pro-war?  There are diplomatic and economic measures that have proven in the past to keep Russia from getting too aggressive.  The #1 reason the Ukraine invasion happened when it did is it was under Biden's weak presidency -- one that caters to China -- and not under Trump.  Trump proved in Syria that Russia doesn't intimidate him.

The war in Ukraine started 549 days ago.  That's Feb 24, 2022, if you do the math.  Not a difficult problem to understand why under this US administration.  Nothing between Russia and Ukraine changed between the Trump and Biden tenures other than the name on the Oval Office door.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2022-02-24/explainer-why-did-russia-invade-ukraine

Sounds like Putin cooled his jets (no pun intended) while Trump was in charge.  As soon as Biden was on the job, he started his build up.

Treasures?  It's military equipment,  not some mythical objects.... we pay ourselves to make more and we give them our old stuff.   Refreshing our inventory  and making us stronger.  We can soon have manufacturering back to proper levels.   I'm not pro all war,  I'm pro democracy and freedom.  And sometimes you need war to protect those ideals.