Night vision - what are you using? (Read 3883 times)

ren

Night vision - what are you using?
« on: September 02, 2023, 05:25:56 PM »
What have you used/owned and your experience?
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zippz

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2023, 05:41:15 PM »
I've used the TNVC PVS14 and 31, white unfilmed.  I haven't shot with it yet, but I've used it for hiking, work, and driving a golf card.  The white phosphor is a big improvement over the greens I used in the Army.  It makes it easier to see and more enjoyable to use.  The dual tubes isn't worth the extra cost at nearly 3x the price of a single.  I can do everything fine with the single tube, and sometimes having an unaided eye is better in mixed lighting.  The dual tubes could be worth it if you use it all night, use it for professional work, or drive a vehicle.  Otherwise single tube is fine for most civilians.

I am concerned about digital night vision making my analog NVG's obsolete.  Digital is still at early Gen 2 levels right now, but it is evolving quickly and it has the potential for color.  Still going to be 5 to 10 years for digital to get close, but when it does the price of analogue NVGs will crater.

zippz

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2023, 06:07:11 PM »


macsak

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2023, 07:03:01 PM »
i own no NVGs...

What have you used/owned and your experience?

ren

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2023, 09:01:23 PM »
i own no NVGs...

you should , can see the plaques on teef
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ren

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2023, 09:01:40 PM »
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2023, 10:38:48 PM »
You think we all that rich to afford NVGs here?

I would like a pair though.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2023, 11:41:40 PM »
You think we all that rich to afford NVGs here?

I would like a pair though.

Have you tried applying for a SWAT assignment?  I bet those guys get NVGs as standard issue.

 :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2023, 06:31:21 AM »
You think we all that rich to afford NVGs here?

I would like a pair though.

Have you tried applying for a SWAT assignment?  I bet those guys get NVGs as standard issue.

 :geekdanc: :thumbsup:

another example of useless input from you two. Why are you two always questioning and arguing? I asked for input if you have. If you don't then STFU. Go argue somewhere else.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2023, 06:37:51 AM by ren »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2023, 08:56:12 AM »
another example of useless input from you two. Why are you two always questioning and arguing? I asked for input if you have. If you don't then STFU. Go argue somewhere else.

Sorry for replying with a witty response.

I didn't see that as "arguing," just making a suggestion.

 :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2023, 01:39:26 AM »
another example of useless input from you two. Why are you two always questioning and arguing? I asked for input if you have. If you don't then STFU. Go argue somewhere else.

Ok, here is my experience, my son got one of those toy ones which uses the infrared LEDs. Maybe not a true NVG but fun to play with.
A guy I worked with showed me his cheapo one (gen 1?) and it wasn't very good. I did try on a gen 3 once and it was amazing but just so pricey. I was thinking maybe a gen 2 would be good enough.

ren

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2023, 07:22:26 AM »
Ok, here is my experience, my son got one of those toy ones which uses the infrared LEDs. Maybe not a true NVG but fun to play with.
A guy I worked with showed me his cheapo one (gen 1?) and it wasn't very good. I did try on a gen 3 once and it was amazing but just so pricey. I was thinking maybe a gen 2 would be good enough.

useless tool
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changemyoil66

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2023, 09:21:17 AM »
I've tried gen 1's and then the one that Zipps had (he let me try) and the huge diff was the depth perception.  With Zipps one, I could also see much more clearer in an open field. Like I could see the leafs on the tree.  The gen1, I could barely see an army man figure about 4 feet in front of me. It was very grainy.

IMO, if you're going down this rabbit hole, save money until you can buy the good stuff. Buy once, cry once.  Unless you really want something and don't mind upgrading later.  Your money.

Pancakes

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2023, 07:17:55 PM »
Armasight pls-7 gen 2+ white phosphorus
It’s a dual eyepiece but only one tube, I got it for a little under $2 k it’s pretty sweet and fun to play with my friends all have monocle style and if I had to do it again I’d go that route. The monotube with two eyepieces make it almost impossible to aim passively from a rifle, from a pistol works great though lol
My friend has gen 3 white phosphorus and it’s definitely clearer, but it also cost like double what I paid 🤷‍♂️ so for me it’s good enough to have 2+ since we just screw around with it sometimes. It’s definitely an expensive toy though lol
Just checked seems the stuff I got isn’t made anymore similar is 2,600-3,000ish so I’m glad I got mine a few years back lol

Correction just found the one I have on a different website, and it is still around $2 k

E808AN

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2023, 06:11:15 PM »
Used a pvs14, not shot with it yet, just hiking up koko head once, walking around beaches at night, star gazing, having something to larp around when the power goes out and i want to do random stuff, used it to wow friends. Want to get duals for driving but my schedule does not allow me to drive with my night vision anymore and frankly I don't want to chance a cop hidden well enough where I cannot see them while driving blacked out, my vehicle isn't dark so it would be very easy to see with a slight use of light (standard positioning of reflector marker on vehicles make it easy to see a vehicle as well). No airsoft cause I am to scared to get my 14 laser burned and cause my AEG is broke. Maybe scholfield rod and gun club in the future could do night shooting, don't know how that would turn saftey wise. I know range control is there late at night.

zippz

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2023, 04:42:22 PM »
Comparison pics tonight of my PVS14 TNVC L3 unfilmed white phosphor.  It was a full moon and the non-nvg pics are about right of what I've seen.





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zippz

Re: Night vision - what are you using?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2023, 04:52:39 PM »
Good video on types of nvgs and how they work