Hamas attacks Israel (Read 66430 times)

Wchiro

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #280 on: October 31, 2023, 08:53:26 PM »
More proof Hamas does not care about the people of GAZA.  Human Shields.

https://youtu.be/7TBlTaCir28?t=358

changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #281 on: November 01, 2023, 07:55:34 AM »
More proof Hamas does not care about the people of GAZA.  Human Shields.

https://youtu.be/7TBlTaCir28?t=358

Add in also using underground. VICE did a show about it years ago and the hospitals has a network of underground tunnels (per Mike Glover) .  So even though IDF levels a building, they will need to also send another ground penetrating ordinance to collapse the tunnels.

hvybarrels

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #282 on: November 01, 2023, 10:06:38 AM »
If I had any friends and/or family in Israel right now I'd advise them to get out. The US dollar collapse is accelerating and without lots of US money and weapons flowing in they are doomed.
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changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #283 on: November 01, 2023, 10:11:04 AM »
If I had any friends and/or family in Israel right now I'd advise them to get out. The US dollar collapse is accelerating and without lots of US money and weapons flowing in they are doomed.

TBH, unless for religious or family reasons, there is no reason to visit Israel due to the risk involved.  They don't have an Iron Dome for no reason. I have a friend who was supposed to go on a tour there and Egypt next month.  Risk vs. reward.

hvybarrels

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #284 on: November 01, 2023, 11:12:28 AM »
TBH, unless for religious or family reasons, there is no reason to visit Israel due to the risk involved.  They don't have an Iron Dome for no reason. I have a friend who was supposed to go on a tour there and Egypt next month.  Risk vs. reward.

It's creepy that Hamas was able to bypass their sensors undetected. That's some pretty advanced tech. It makes me wonder how much the CCP was involved, and what other systems are vulnerable. Could a cyber attack take out the Iron Dome?
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changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #285 on: November 01, 2023, 11:16:44 AM »
Besides finally taking over Palastine/Gaza/Hamas, what if this war had another use.

Israel was the most vaxxed country and was the testing ground for Pfizer.  Majortiy of those vaxxed got Pfizer.  They got the boosters and such well before the US did.  Since military service is required, a war is a good way to hide an increase in young people dying.

changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #286 on: November 01, 2023, 11:21:35 AM »
It's creepy that Hamas was able to bypass their sensors undetected. That's some pretty advanced tech. It makes me wonder how much the CCP was involved, and what other systems are vulnerable. Could a cyber attack take out the Iron Dome?

IMO, the Dome is probably calibrated to track things that are moving much faster.    A single guy on a glider with a big fan bascially would be outside of the domes specs.  Cause if these gliders were able to be tracked, then anyone who's doing recreational paragliding would be engaged as well.  Hamas found a chink in the armor.

hvybarrels

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #287 on: November 01, 2023, 11:45:31 AM »
Besides finally taking over Palastine/Gaza/Hamas, what if this war had another use.

Israel was the most vaxxed country and was the testing ground for Pfizer.  Majortiy of those vaxxed got Pfizer.  They got the boosters and such well before the US did.  Since military service is required, a war is a good way to hide an increase in young people dying.

War has been regularly used to downsize excess young male populations in order to keep them from revolting and pick up some new territory and resources as a bonus. The problem with using it to cover up a sick and dying society is that you're pretty much guaranteed to lose, especially if the other side doesn't have the same medical issues.
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zippz

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #288 on: November 01, 2023, 11:53:10 AM »
It's creepy that Hamas was able to bypass their sensors undetected. That's some pretty advanced tech. It makes me wonder how much the CCP was involved, and what other systems are vulnerable. Could a cyber attack take out the Iron Dome?

Drones were used to disable cameras and sensors.  That along with catching the Israelis off guard and overwhelming them.

changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #289 on: November 01, 2023, 01:01:48 PM »
Annnnndddd drones dropping munitions are being used.  IDF had 2 years to watch Ukraine/Russia use and get hit by these.

hvybarrels

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #290 on: November 01, 2023, 01:24:55 PM »
It seems like a new age of warfare is upon us. Anyone making anti-drone stuff for the civilian market yet?

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changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #291 on: November 02, 2023, 08:48:00 PM »
Israels current problem is the Dome is working too well. Hamas is using propoganda on their demolished buildings. Israel cant do this.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #292 on: November 03, 2023, 10:47:27 PM »
Canyou look up where they took off from?  Like from Gaza or Palestine or like inside Israel?  Cause if it was from Gaza or Palestine area, how did they get pass the towers?  Does the IDF have no SOP dealing with someone who flys over the line?

There were videos of Hamas using drones to drop bombs on the gun towers disabling them. Might have been how they got past the towers.

ren

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #293 on: November 04, 2023, 06:12:16 AM »
There were videos of Hamas using drones to drop bombs on the gun towers disabling them. Might have been how they got past the towers.
so dumb
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #294 on: November 04, 2023, 10:01:25 PM »
so dumb

?
Seems pretty smart to me.

zippz

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #295 on: November 06, 2023, 08:28:30 AM »
Hope they make this video public.  Currently it's only a very limited screening for selected invitees, press, and celebrities.  Make a change in how the media views things.


‘Wonder Woman’ Star Gal Gadot Plans Hollywood Screening of Hamas Atrocities Against Jews

Hollywood screening of the 47-minute sequence is scheduled to take place in front of a specially chosen audience, featuring celebrities and prominent figures.
...
The footage is known to be violent, including video of murder, beheadings, and mass rapes of Jewish people, according to media reports.
.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/06/wonder-women-star-gal-gadot-plans-hollywood-screening-of-hamas-atrocities-against-jews/

changemyoil66

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #296 on: November 06, 2023, 08:34:29 AM »
Hope they make this video public.  Currently it's only a very limited screening for selected invitees, press, and celebrities.  Make a change in how the media views things.


‘Wonder Woman’ Star Gal Gadot Plans Hollywood Screening of Hamas Atrocities Against Jews

Hollywood screening of the 47-minute sequence is scheduled to take place in front of a specially chosen audience, featuring celebrities and prominent figures.
...
The footage is known to be violent, including video of murder, beheadings, and mass rapes of Jewish people, according to media reports.
.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/06/wonder-women-star-gal-gadot-plans-hollywood-screening-of-hamas-atrocities-against-jews/

Her social media has been posting pics of the hostages/missing since this began.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #297 on: November 06, 2023, 09:03:25 PM »
Hope they make this video public.  Currently it's only a very limited screening for selected invitees, press, and celebrities.  Make a change in how the media views things.


‘Wonder Woman’ Star Gal Gadot Plans Hollywood Screening of Hamas Atrocities Against Jews

Hollywood screening of the 47-minute sequence is scheduled to take place in front of a specially chosen audience, featuring celebrities and prominent figures.
...
The footage is known to be violent, including video of murder, beheadings, and mass rapes of Jewish people, according to media reports.
.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/06/wonder-women-star-gal-gadot-plans-hollywood-screening-of-hamas-atrocities-against-jews/

Maybe they don't want this footage going public so as not to give publicity to Hamas, along the same lines of news agencies not mentioning shooter names or their manifestos after a mass shooting?

macsak

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #298 on: November 06, 2023, 09:45:14 PM »
the IDF already showed a long video to the press
it was reported that some had to leave and others were crying...

Hope they make this video public.  Currently it's only a very limited screening for selected invitees, press, and celebrities.  Make a change in how the media views things.


‘Wonder Woman’ Star Gal Gadot Plans Hollywood Screening of Hamas Atrocities Against Jews

Hollywood screening of the 47-minute sequence is scheduled to take place in front of a specially chosen audience, featuring celebrities and prominent figures.
...
The footage is known to be violent, including video of murder, beheadings, and mass rapes of Jewish people, according to media reports.
.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/06/wonder-women-star-gal-gadot-plans-hollywood-screening-of-hamas-atrocities-against-jews/

QUIETShooter

Re: Hamas attacks Israel
« Reply #299 on: November 07, 2023, 07:16:16 AM »
I still fail to understand how people can justify condemning Israel for retaliating against the atrocities that Hamas committed on Oct. 7th.

And I still fail to understand how the Palestinian people and the Palestinian Authority allow Hamas to represent them as the head of government.

Hamas is a terror organization. 

I also wish Israel would stop their airstrikes and concentrate on the ground operations.  This would reduce collateral damage.  I know urban house to house combat is ugly business, but it is what it is.  Seems like Israel only wants to bomb and use ground forces to clean up the rubble and mess.  Sift through the dead bodies and report if any terrorists were in there, mixed with civilians.

That's not going to bode well on the propaganda front.  I thought Israel was going to break down territories into sections, cordon them off and one by one, weed out the terrorists.  Then move on to the next one, all the while evacuating civilians into safer areas along the way.

Slower, safer, less collateral damage, and improved propaganda outlook.

They said it was going to take a long time.  Right now they just look like they want to destroy the whole Gaza Strip into smithereens.

WW3 material for sure if this keeps up.

My opinion of course.

 
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.