Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference. (Read 14926 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2023, 10:48:13 AM »
It isn't the GOP/RNC and their nomination process we should be concerned about.  It's the individual states.

There are petitions and lawsuits in almost all the swing states trying to keep Trump's name off the ballot.  If that happens, there's still the possibility of a write-in campaign, but the write-in candidate still has to satisfy whatever qualification rules a state's law have.

The Democrats are gaming the system in all areas. It's all about winning at any cost.  They demonstrated that beautifully in the 2 failed impeachment trials that were based on BS political accusations.  The Russian collusion hoax is another.  All they did was keep Trump's people busy producing millions of pages of documentation and hundreds of hours in hearings and investigative meetings just to slow his administration's roll.  A speed block against doing his their jobs.

Anyway, Trump is the front runner for the nomination by a lot.  And he didn't even participate in the debates.  I think the Dems are very worried he'll win again if he's allowed to run.  can't beat him at the ballot box, so make sure he never gets there.

Sure looks that way.  Half the country loves him.  The other half hates him.  Amazing.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Sodie

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2023, 03:04:12 PM »
So the RNC, if they want to, can block a candidate from becoming the party's nominee?

Is this similar to when Bernie Sanders was passed up for Hillary Clinton?

The RNC chooses the candidate, so by definition they “block” all other contenders when a candidate is nominated.

I didn’t pay a lot of attention to the Clinton/Sanders drama, but I think that’s kind of the parallel. If delegates to the convention aren’t bound to vote the way their state primaries went (party-specific version of “faithless electors,” I guess), they could in theory nominate someone who didn’t get the most primary votes.

QUIETShooter

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2023, 08:27:20 AM »
Dems are hoping Trump will run because he has no chance to win. Independent voters won't break for a criminal and Biden has been proving lately that he is actually a wise and experienced negotiator and leader that shows empathy towards people.

He's applying a band-aid (a very expensive one with dollars the US doesn't have).

So much for a wise and experienced negotiator.

He lately stated about a cease fire until all hostages are freed.  What idiot thinks a terror organization will give up it's hole card?

You're gonna have a cease fire that lasts till kingdom come.  And biden played right into it. :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2023, 08:52:54 AM »
cool story, bro...

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Dems are hoping Trump will run because he has no chance to win. Independent voters won't break for a criminal and Biden has been proving lately that he is actually a wise and experienced negotiator and leader that shows empathy towards people.

hvybarrels

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2023, 09:20:27 AM »
cool story, bro...

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I rarely hear even my hardcore lib friends talking like he does any more. In order to believe it there must be something not working right.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2023, 09:44:23 AM »
Jean is so entertaining. Better than the real one.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2023, 10:11:32 AM »
So you already convicted Hillary? When was the trial. What's up with that?

The proof was made public.  Her excuses in the Congressional hearings only verified those facts and offered no defense.  The corrupt DOJ chose to not charge her.

Can't have a trial if the feds and politicians are protecting each other.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2023, 10:13:17 AM »
Dems are hoping Trump will run because he has no chance to win. Independent voters won't break for a criminal and Biden has been proving lately that he is actually a wise and experienced negotiator and leader that shows empathy towards people.

LOL!

Where were you in 2015-2016?  The dems and media made that mistake then.  You're advocating for repeating that mistake.

 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2023, 10:19:28 AM »
The proof was made public.  Her excuses in the Congressional hearings only verified those facts and offered no defense.  The corrupt DOJ chose to not charge her.

Can't have a trial if the feds and politicians are protecting each other.

What's very dangerous is that people have TDS, which blinds them to what is really going on.  The DOJ is acting like a communist countries government agency.  The only thing the DOJ is not doing is executing people.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2023, 01:20:07 PM »
So rather than negotiate for hostages in a building, your solution is to blow up the building and kill all the civilians so everyone dies?

I must have missed the latest TDS memo.

Who died, exactly?  Did Trump dox elite special forces members TWICE? 

You can't make an analogy that involves people dying when that's not even close to the situation at issue.

 :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2023, 01:21:38 PM »
You are the one always complaining about innocent until proven guilty and misdemeanors not really being crimes. Justify yourself. Your only justification appears to be that it's a big conspiracy theory? You leader said he was going to lock her up? Conspiracy again? Does it ever end?

And you are the one wanting to convict Trump before any testimony or evidence is offered in a court of law.

Don't call me inconsistent and then pretend like you care about innocence before proof.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2023, 01:50:31 PM »
So your reasoning is lets lock up Hillary without a trial. Regarding the indictment of Trump, well that is just a big persecution because there is no chance he would every commit a crime.  If he is convicted he still must be innocent because the justice system is rigged against him. 

What say you about his co-defendants that have already plead guilty and will be testifying for the prosecution?

My reasoning is you need to stop being such a hypocrite.

Is that plain enough for you, or are you going to misinterpret what I said again?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2023, 02:03:41 PM »
The state of Georgia not the DOJ is handling the criminal case in Georgia. Four people and counting have pleaded guilty and will testify for the prosecution. You still think they don't have a case and the indictment is just part of your conspiracy theory to promote communism? We also talk about the house of lies the Trump Organization was built upon defrauding banks and the state .. of course you probably don't consider those lies crimes because it is just a civil case. Also not the DOJ.


SWOOOOSSSHHHHHHH. #doesntunderstandreference

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2023, 02:05:30 PM »
My reasoning is you need to stop being such a hypocrite.

Is that plain enough for you, or are you going to misinterpret what I said again?

Xhe doesn't understand that the DOJ even with evidence of crimes being committed can still chose not to prosecute someone.  Damn that's hard to understand.

QUIETShooter

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2023, 02:24:15 PM »
So rather than negotiate for hostages in a building, your solution is to blow up the building and kill all the civilians so everyone dies?

They're doing that now.  You cannot negotiate with terrorists.  This is not time for Kumbaya thinking.  Israel declared war on Hamas.  That means elimination of this terror group.

Many people don't want to go there but the hostages are as good as dead or will be soon.

You think my heart doesn't break knowing this?  Even Israel don't talk about it but they know and have experienced it in the past.

It is the reality.  The longer this drags on gives Hamas time to escape Gaza leaving behind dead hostages.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2023, 03:03:51 PM »
There you go projecting again. Your position is hypocritical. It makes no sense to only be in favor or Trump at any cost. You seem to believe he can do not wrong and just blame everything on the evil conspiracy against him whatever that may be at the time.

Jeanism, so it must be true.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2023, 03:04:48 PM »
That's always been the choice that is called prosecutorial discretion. So are you saying Trump should have prosecuted Hillary when he had the chance but the FBI was corrupted by Republicans in collusion with the Democrats? You know how crazy that sounds? Maybe  all of the Trump AGs were working with the Democrats? Jeff Sessions and William Barr colluding with Democrats?

Proof you don't understand how the DOJ works.  You should google if the POTUS is king.

Sodie

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2023, 05:45:44 PM »
Things have now changed.  More Trumps lawyers are now pleading guilty to felonies as two more of Trumps lawyers plead guilty to trying to steal the election from the American people. You still think Trump is innocent? This is a criminal trial. Will the GOP nominate a candidate that is likely to be found guilty of a conspiracy to fraudulently steal an election?

I’ve got a fun word search activity for you. Here it is: find any post, on this thread or anywhere else in this forum, where I implied that I think former President Trump is innocent.

Ready? GO!

I’ll wait.

hvybarrels

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2023, 05:58:29 PM »
You know how crazy that sounds?

Less crazy than someone who believes Joe Biden is mentally fit for office
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Lawyer pleads guilty to election interference.
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2023, 07:28:38 PM »
There you go projecting again. Your position is hypocritical. It makes no sense to only be in favor or Trump at any cost. You seem to believe he can do not wrong and just blame everything on the evil conspiracy against him whatever that may be at the time.

As I predicted, you misinterpreted what I said in order to have something to say about it ... as usual.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw