The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS (Read 2258 times)

QUIETShooter

The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« on: November 25, 2023, 08:54:20 AM »
In just a little less than 4 years the US and the World has turned upside down.

One can only hope, at the very least, that this idiot no longer is in office in 2024. :grrr:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-era-agreement-between-the-koreas-shredded-north-boldly-declares-our-army-will-never-be-bound/ar-AA1kwjOw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=024036ab1e3544fbb7fbcb6e9d0881a2&ei=37
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2023, 10:50:50 PM »
Not that I have a positive opinion of Biden but in all fairness Kim Jyong Un is a crazy person, I see no reason to believe he wouldn't do they exact same thing had Trump been in power.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2023, 02:07:21 PM by eyeeatingfish »

ren

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2023, 08:43:24 AM »
Not that I have a positive opinion of Biden but in all fairness he is a crazy person, I see no reason to believe he wouldn't do they exact same thing had Trump been in power.

did you read the declaration? Here you go:

Panmunjeom Declaration for Peace, Prosperity and Unification of the Korean Peninsula

During this momentous period of historical transformation on the Korean Peninsula, reflecting the enduring aspiration of the Korean people for peace, prosperity and unification, President Moon Jae-in of the Republic of Korea and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea held an Inter-Korean Summit Meeting at the ‘Peace House' at Panmunjeom on April 27, 2018.

The two leaders solemnly declared before the 80 million Korean people and the whole world that there will be no more war on the Korean Peninsula and thus a new era of peace has begun.

The two leaders, sharing the firm commitment to bring a swift end to the Cold War relic of longstanding division and confrontation, to boldly approach a new era of national reconciliation, peace and prosperity, and to improve and cultivate inter-Korean relations in a more active manner, declared at this historic site of Panmunjeom as follows :

1. South and North Korea will reconnect the blood relations of the people and bring forward the future of co-prosperity and unification led by Koreans by facilitating comprehensive and groundbreaking advancement in inter-Korean relations. Improving and cultivating inter-Korean relations is the prevalent desire of the whole nation and the urgent calling of the times that cannot be held back any further.

Two Koreas ask UN to circulate 'Panmunjom Declaration'
Two Koreas ask UN to circulate 'Panmunjom Declaration'
2018-09-08 14:15  |  Foreign Affairs
Koreas agree to call for formal end to war this year
Koreas agree to call for formal end to war this year
2018-04-27 18:02

① South and North Korea affirmed the principle of determining the destiny of the Korean nation on their own accord and agreed to bring forth the watershed moment for the improvement of inter-Korean relations by fully implementing all existing agreements and declarations adopted between the two sides thus far.

② South and North Korea agreed to hold dialogue and negotiations in various fields including at high level, and to take active measures for the implementation of the agreements reached at the Summit.

③ South and North Korea agreed to establish a joint liaison office with resident representatives of both sides in the Gaeseong region in order to facilitate close consultation between the authorities as well as smooth exchanges and cooperation between the peoples.

④ South and North Korea agreed to encourage more active cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts at all levels in order to rejuvenate the sense of national reconciliation and unity. Between South and North, the two sides will encourage the atmosphere of amity and cooperation by actively staging various joint events on the dates that hold special meaning for both South and North Korea, such as June 15, in which participants from all levels, including central and local governments, parliaments, political parties, and civil organizations, will be involved. On the international front, the two sides agreed to demonstrate their collective wisdom, talents, and solidarity by jointly participating in international sports events such as the 2018 Asian Games.

⑤ South and North Korea agreed to endeavor to swiftly resolve the humanitarian issues that resulted from the division of the nation, and to convene the Inter-Korean Red Cross Meeting to discuss and solve various issues including the reunion of separated families. In this vein, South and North Korea agreed to proceed with reunion programs for the separated families on the occasion of the National Liberation Day of August 15 this year.

⑥ South and North Korea agreed to actively implement the projects previously agreed in the 2007 October 4 Declaration, in order to promote balanced economic growth and co-prosperity of the nation. As a first step, the two sides agreed to adopt practical steps towards the connection and modernization of the railways and roads on the eastern transportation corridor as well as between Seoul and Sinuiju for their utilization.

2. South and North Korea will make joint efforts to alleviate the acute military tension and practically eliminate the danger of war on the Korean Peninsula. Alleviating the military tension and eliminating the danger of war is a highly significant challenge directly linked to the fate of the Korean people and also a vital task in guaranteeing their peaceful and stable lives.

① South and North Korea agreed to completely cease all hostile acts against each other in every domain, including land, air and sea, that are the source of military tension and conflict. In this vein, the two sides agreed to transform the demilitarized zone into a peace zone in a genuine sense by ceasing as of May 1 this year all hostile acts and eliminating their means, including broadcasting through loudspeakers and distribution of leaflets, in the areas along the Military Demarcation Line.

② South and North Korea agreed to devise a practical scheme to turn the areas around the Northern Limit Line in the West Sea into a maritime peace zone in order to prevent accidental military clashes and guarantee safe fishing activities.

③ South and North Korea agreed to take various military measures to ensure active mutual cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts. The two sides agreed to hold frequent meetings between military authorities, including the Defense Ministers Meeting, in order to immediately discuss and solve military issues that arise between them. In this regard, the two sides agreed to first convene military talks at the rank of general in May.

3. South and North Korea will actively cooperate to establish a permanent and solid peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. Bringing an end to the current unnatural state of armistice and establishing a robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula is a historical mission that must not be delayed any further.

① South and North Korea reaffirmed the Non-Aggression Agreement that precludes the use of force in any form against each other, and agreed to strictly adhere to this Agreement.

② South and North Korea agreed to carry out disarmament in a phased manner, as military tension is alleviated and substantial progress is made in military confidence-building.

③ During this year that marks the 65th anniversary of the Armistice, South and North Korea agreed to actively pursue trilateral meetings involving the two Koreas and the United States, or quadrilateral meetings involving the two Koreas, the United States and China with a view to declaring an end to the War, turning the armistice into a peace treaty, and establishing a permanent and solid peace regime.

④ South and North Korea confirmed the common goal of realizing, through complete denuclearization, a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula. South and North Korea shared the view that the measures being initiated by North Korea are very meaningful and crucial for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and agreed to carry out their respective roles and responsibilities in this regard. South and North Korea agreed to actively seek the support and cooperation of the international community for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

The two leaders agreed, through regular meetings and direct telephone conversations, to hold frequent and candid discussions on issues vital to the nation, to strengthen mutual trust and to jointly endeavor to strengthen the positive momentum towards continuous advancement of inter-Korean relations as well as peace, prosperity and unification of the Korean Peninsula.

In this context, President Moon Jae-in agreed to visit Pyongyang this fall.

April 27, 2018
Done in Panmunjeom

Moon Jae-in
President
Republic of Korea

Kim Jong Un
Chairman
State Affairs Commission
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2023, 09:00:42 AM »
did you read the declaration? Here you go:

Panmunjeom Declaration for Peace, Prosperity and Unification of the Korean Peninsula

During this momentous period of historical transformation on the Korean Peninsula, reflecting the enduring aspiration of the Korean people for peace, prosperity and unification, President Moon Jae-in of the Republic of Korea and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea held an Inter-Korean Summit Meeting at the ‘Peace House' at Panmunjeom on April 27, 2018.

The two leaders solemnly declared before the 80 million Korean people and the whole world that there will be no more war on the Korean Peninsula and thus a new era of peace has begun.

The two leaders, sharing the firm commitment to bring a swift end to the Cold War relic of longstanding division and confrontation, to boldly approach a new era of national reconciliation, peace and prosperity, and to improve and cultivate inter-Korean relations in a more active manner, declared at this historic site of Panmunjeom as follows :

1. South and North Korea will reconnect the blood relations of the people and bring forward the future of co-prosperity and unification led by Koreans by facilitating comprehensive and groundbreaking advancement in inter-Korean relations. Improving and cultivating inter-Korean relations is the prevalent desire of the whole nation and the urgent calling of the times that cannot be held back any further.

Two Koreas ask UN to circulate 'Panmunjom Declaration'
Two Koreas ask UN to circulate 'Panmunjom Declaration'
2018-09-08 14:15  |  Foreign Affairs
Koreas agree to call for formal end to war this year
Koreas agree to call for formal end to war this year
2018-04-27 18:02

① South and North Korea affirmed the principle of determining the destiny of the Korean nation on their own accord and agreed to bring forth the watershed moment for the improvement of inter-Korean relations by fully implementing all existing agreements and declarations adopted between the two sides thus far.

② South and North Korea agreed to hold dialogue and negotiations in various fields including at high level, and to take active measures for the implementation of the agreements reached at the Summit.

③ South and North Korea agreed to establish a joint liaison office with resident representatives of both sides in the Gaeseong region in order to facilitate close consultation between the authorities as well as smooth exchanges and cooperation between the peoples.

④ South and North Korea agreed to encourage more active cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts at all levels in order to rejuvenate the sense of national reconciliation and unity. Between South and North, the two sides will encourage the atmosphere of amity and cooperation by actively staging various joint events on the dates that hold special meaning for both South and North Korea, such as June 15, in which participants from all levels, including central and local governments, parliaments, political parties, and civil organizations, will be involved. On the international front, the two sides agreed to demonstrate their collective wisdom, talents, and solidarity by jointly participating in international sports events such as the 2018 Asian Games.

⑤ South and North Korea agreed to endeavor to swiftly resolve the humanitarian issues that resulted from the division of the nation, and to convene the Inter-Korean Red Cross Meeting to discuss and solve various issues including the reunion of separated families. In this vein, South and North Korea agreed to proceed with reunion programs for the separated families on the occasion of the National Liberation Day of August 15 this year.

⑥ South and North Korea agreed to actively implement the projects previously agreed in the 2007 October 4 Declaration, in order to promote balanced economic growth and co-prosperity of the nation. As a first step, the two sides agreed to adopt practical steps towards the connection and modernization of the railways and roads on the eastern transportation corridor as well as between Seoul and Sinuiju for their utilization.

2. South and North Korea will make joint efforts to alleviate the acute military tension and practically eliminate the danger of war on the Korean Peninsula. Alleviating the military tension and eliminating the danger of war is a highly significant challenge directly linked to the fate of the Korean people and also a vital task in guaranteeing their peaceful and stable lives.

① South and North Korea agreed to completely cease all hostile acts against each other in every domain, including land, air and sea, that are the source of military tension and conflict. In this vein, the two sides agreed to transform the demilitarized zone into a peace zone in a genuine sense by ceasing as of May 1 this year all hostile acts and eliminating their means, including broadcasting through loudspeakers and distribution of leaflets, in the areas along the Military Demarcation Line.

② South and North Korea agreed to devise a practical scheme to turn the areas around the Northern Limit Line in the West Sea into a maritime peace zone in order to prevent accidental military clashes and guarantee safe fishing activities.

③ South and North Korea agreed to take various military measures to ensure active mutual cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts. The two sides agreed to hold frequent meetings between military authorities, including the Defense Ministers Meeting, in order to immediately discuss and solve military issues that arise between them. In this regard, the two sides agreed to first convene military talks at the rank of general in May.

3. South and North Korea will actively cooperate to establish a permanent and solid peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. Bringing an end to the current unnatural state of armistice and establishing a robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula is a historical mission that must not be delayed any further.

① South and North Korea reaffirmed the Non-Aggression Agreement that precludes the use of force in any form against each other, and agreed to strictly adhere to this Agreement.

② South and North Korea agreed to carry out disarmament in a phased manner, as military tension is alleviated and substantial progress is made in military confidence-building.

③ During this year that marks the 65th anniversary of the Armistice, South and North Korea agreed to actively pursue trilateral meetings involving the two Koreas and the United States, or quadrilateral meetings involving the two Koreas, the United States and China with a view to declaring an end to the War, turning the armistice into a peace treaty, and establishing a permanent and solid peace regime.

④ South and North Korea confirmed the common goal of realizing, through complete denuclearization, a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula. South and North Korea shared the view that the measures being initiated by North Korea are very meaningful and crucial for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and agreed to carry out their respective roles and responsibilities in this regard. South and North Korea agreed to actively seek the support and cooperation of the international community for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

The two leaders agreed, through regular meetings and direct telephone conversations, to hold frequent and candid discussions on issues vital to the nation, to strengthen mutual trust and to jointly endeavor to strengthen the positive momentum towards continuous advancement of inter-Korean relations as well as peace, prosperity and unification of the Korean Peninsula.

In this context, President Moon Jae-in agreed to visit Pyongyang this fall.

April 27, 2018
Done in Panmunjeom

Moon Jae-in
President
Republic of Korea

Kim Jong Un
Chairman
State Affairs Commission
Democratic People's Republic of Korea


Thanks for posting that.   :shaka:

In case "somebody" needs to have it pointed out, TRUMP DID THAT!!

The armistice agreement that ended the fighting (but not the war) in Korea was signed July 27, 1953.

It took until April 27, 2018, for Trump to be our President and for the official end of the Korean War to be signed by both the North and the South.
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South and North Korea agreed to completely cease all hostile acts against
each other in every domain, including land, air and sea, that are the source
of military tension and conflict. In this vein, the two sides agreed to transform
the demilitarized zone into a peace zone in a genuine sense by ceasing as
of May 1 this year all hostile acts and eliminating their means, including
broadcasting through loudspeakers and distribution of leaflets, in the areas
along the Military Demarcation Line.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:




Biden destroyed a peace in months which took almost 65 years to happen.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2023, 09:03:15 AM »
In analyzing the situation between the Koreas; one must ask what do other countries gain or lose in different courses of action? Peace between North and South or continuing with the current situation. Gee, I wonder what large military presence will probably be in question?
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2023, 10:01:02 AM »
did you read the declaration? Here you go:

Panmunjeom Declaration for Peace, Prosperity and Unification of the Korean Peninsula

During this momentous period of historical transformation on the Korean Peninsula, reflecting the enduring aspiration of the Korean people for peace, prosperity and unification, President Moon Jae-in of the Republic of Korea and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea held an Inter-Korean Summit Meeting at the ‘Peace House' at Panmunjeom on April 27, 2018.

The two leaders solemnly declared before the 80 million Korean people and the whole world that there will be no more war on the Korean Peninsula and thus a new era of peace has begun.

The two leaders, sharing the firm commitment to bring a swift end to the Cold War relic of longstanding division and confrontation, to boldly approach a new era of national reconciliation, peace and prosperity, and to improve and cultivate inter-Korean relations in a more active manner, declared at this historic site of Panmunjeom as follows :

1. South and North Korea will reconnect the blood relations of the people and bring forward the future of co-prosperity and unification led by Koreans by facilitating comprehensive and groundbreaking advancement in inter-Korean relations. Improving and cultivating inter-Korean relations is the prevalent desire of the whole nation and the urgent calling of the times that cannot be held back any further.

Two Koreas ask UN to circulate 'Panmunjom Declaration'
Two Koreas ask UN to circulate 'Panmunjom Declaration'
2018-09-08 14:15  |  Foreign Affairs
Koreas agree to call for formal end to war this year
Koreas agree to call for formal end to war this year
2018-04-27 18:02

① South and North Korea affirmed the principle of determining the destiny of the Korean nation on their own accord and agreed to bring forth the watershed moment for the improvement of inter-Korean relations by fully implementing all existing agreements and declarations adopted between the two sides thus far.

② South and North Korea agreed to hold dialogue and negotiations in various fields including at high level, and to take active measures for the implementation of the agreements reached at the Summit.

③ South and North Korea agreed to establish a joint liaison office with resident representatives of both sides in the Gaeseong region in order to facilitate close consultation between the authorities as well as smooth exchanges and cooperation between the peoples.

④ South and North Korea agreed to encourage more active cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts at all levels in order to rejuvenate the sense of national reconciliation and unity. Between South and North, the two sides will encourage the atmosphere of amity and cooperation by actively staging various joint events on the dates that hold special meaning for both South and North Korea, such as June 15, in which participants from all levels, including central and local governments, parliaments, political parties, and civil organizations, will be involved. On the international front, the two sides agreed to demonstrate their collective wisdom, talents, and solidarity by jointly participating in international sports events such as the 2018 Asian Games.

⑤ South and North Korea agreed to endeavor to swiftly resolve the humanitarian issues that resulted from the division of the nation, and to convene the Inter-Korean Red Cross Meeting to discuss and solve various issues including the reunion of separated families. In this vein, South and North Korea agreed to proceed with reunion programs for the separated families on the occasion of the National Liberation Day of August 15 this year.

⑥ South and North Korea agreed to actively implement the projects previously agreed in the 2007 October 4 Declaration, in order to promote balanced economic growth and co-prosperity of the nation. As a first step, the two sides agreed to adopt practical steps towards the connection and modernization of the railways and roads on the eastern transportation corridor as well as between Seoul and Sinuiju for their utilization.

2. South and North Korea will make joint efforts to alleviate the acute military tension and practically eliminate the danger of war on the Korean Peninsula. Alleviating the military tension and eliminating the danger of war is a highly significant challenge directly linked to the fate of the Korean people and also a vital task in guaranteeing their peaceful and stable lives.

① South and North Korea agreed to completely cease all hostile acts against each other in every domain, including land, air and sea, that are the source of military tension and conflict. In this vein, the two sides agreed to transform the demilitarized zone into a peace zone in a genuine sense by ceasing as of May 1 this year all hostile acts and eliminating their means, including broadcasting through loudspeakers and distribution of leaflets, in the areas along the Military Demarcation Line.

② South and North Korea agreed to devise a practical scheme to turn the areas around the Northern Limit Line in the West Sea into a maritime peace zone in order to prevent accidental military clashes and guarantee safe fishing activities.

③ South and North Korea agreed to take various military measures to ensure active mutual cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts. The two sides agreed to hold frequent meetings between military authorities, including the Defense Ministers Meeting, in order to immediately discuss and solve military issues that arise between them. In this regard, the two sides agreed to first convene military talks at the rank of general in May.

3. South and North Korea will actively cooperate to establish a permanent and solid peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. Bringing an end to the current unnatural state of armistice and establishing a robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula is a historical mission that must not be delayed any further.

① South and North Korea reaffirmed the Non-Aggression Agreement that precludes the use of force in any form against each other, and agreed to strictly adhere to this Agreement.

② South and North Korea agreed to carry out disarmament in a phased manner, as military tension is alleviated and substantial progress is made in military confidence-building.

③ During this year that marks the 65th anniversary of the Armistice, South and North Korea agreed to actively pursue trilateral meetings involving the two Koreas and the United States, or quadrilateral meetings involving the two Koreas, the United States and China with a view to declaring an end to the War, turning the armistice into a peace treaty, and establishing a permanent and solid peace regime.

④ South and North Korea confirmed the common goal of realizing, through complete denuclearization, a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula. South and North Korea shared the view that the measures being initiated by North Korea are very meaningful and crucial for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and agreed to carry out their respective roles and responsibilities in this regard. South and North Korea agreed to actively seek the support and cooperation of the international community for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

The two leaders agreed, through regular meetings and direct telephone conversations, to hold frequent and candid discussions on issues vital to the nation, to strengthen mutual trust and to jointly endeavor to strengthen the positive momentum towards continuous advancement of inter-Korean relations as well as peace, prosperity and unification of the Korean Peninsula.

In this context, President Moon Jae-in agreed to visit Pyongyang this fall.

April 27, 2018
Done in Panmunjeom

Moon Jae-in
President
Republic of Korea

Kim Jong Un
Chairman
State Affairs Commission
Democratic People's Republic of Korea

He reads stuff, but doesnt understand them.

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Sodie

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2023, 10:32:32 AM »
did you read the declaration? Here you go:

Panmunjeom Declaration for Peace, Prosperity and Unification of the Korean Peninsula

③ South and North Korea agreed to establish a joint liaison office with resident representatives of both sides in the Gaeseong region in order to facilitate close consultation between the authorities as well as smooth exchanges and cooperation between the peoples.


Did they ever officially scrap the armistice and declare the war to be over?

hvybarrels

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2023, 11:10:18 AM »
2016-2019 sure is looking like the good old days
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

QUIETShooter

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2023, 11:54:25 AM »
Leadership, courage, and determination are sometimes found in the least expected.

I still remember when I found out Trump won.  I shook my head, laughed, and said "Awesome, he didi it.....".  I honestly didn't think he could win over crooked and evil Hillary.  But he did it. :thumbsup:

Yet I actually was a bit apprehensive as to what would come.  He was, after all, a newbie in the political arena and thought he would be knocked around by those who were "experienced".

Yet he came through.  He actually did the knocking around, much to the dismay of the swamp critters who he was not afraid of in the least.

And I admit I didn't have much confidence in his handling of foreign affairs like North Korea and the World in general.  But he did fine.  Not bad for somebody who was new to politics, and yet won the highest and most powerful office in the world.

Yep.  He did ok.  Cannot say the same for the idiot asshat that claimed he got 81 plus million votes.  All he proved is that 40 plus years of "experience" in the political arena don't mean shiite. :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2023, 02:15:18 PM »
In analyzing the situation between the Koreas; one must ask what do other countries gain or lose in different courses of action? Peace between North and South or continuing with the current situation. Gee, I wonder what large military presence will probably be in question?

What I meant is that looking at it only through the lens of who is president is not a very accurate way to assign blame. Biden being president isn't the only variable in the world changing right now. Tensions in Ukraine, in Israel, and with China. Russia is sending them new weapon systems. On top of that this kind of thing is in their normal playbook. They puff up their chest then negotiate for peace to get something beneficial. Then they threaten to do something again down the road for another negotiated peace. Biden doesn't project strength but I highly doubt Kim Jyong Un is basing this act entirely on Biden's position.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2023, 03:57:08 PM »
Did they ever officially scrap the armistice and declare the war to be over?

The armistice is still in place. 

NK and SK agreed in 2018 "in principle" to ending the war officially.  The one thing NK said was preventing it before was "US Hostilities toward the North."  Most of that was in the area of trade and economic sanctions over NK seeking to build a nuclear capability.

Trump signified a new era of US-NK diplomacy by being the only US President to visit there.  Taking away what NK said was the main speed bump to peace was working.  SK's president had said many times his number one wish was to usher in peace between the countries and end the Korean War for good.  So, the only thing standing in the way was US foreign policy regarding  NK.  As we saw, Trump made that deal where all before him had failed.

Now that Biden is busy undoing everything Trump accomplished, I find it comical that anyone would diminish Trump's successes with NK and simultaneously refuse to acknowledge the utter failure of Biden to score after Trump gave him 4 downs and all his timeouts at the 1 yard line -- and 4 years on the clock!!

 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2023, 06:00:47 AM »
What I meant is that looking at it only through the lens of who is president is not a very accurate way to assign blame. Biden being president isn't the only variable in the world changing right now. Tensions in Ukraine, in Israel, and with China. Russia is sending them new weapon systems. On top of that this kind of thing is in their normal playbook. They puff up their chest then negotiate for peace to get something beneficial. Then they threaten to do something again down the road for another negotiated peace. Biden doesn't project strength but I highly doubt Kim Jyong Un is basing this act entirely on Biden's position.

I respectfully disagree.  I think because biden has shown indecisiveness and weakness in resolve,
NK has become more bold and were keen to how other powers like Russia and others in the middle east were responding to the POTUS's weakness.

Seeing that these powers are intent on dismantling the US's infuence in world affairs, NK has swiftly seen the opportunity to cripple their largest enemy by aligning with these nations.  They know they cannot do it by themselves.

Peace through strength. Might not be a perfect peace but a whole lot better than the situation we are in now.  In less than 4 years biden's foreign policy "expertise" messed it up.  I believe our enemies saw the opportunity and they are taking it.

One of his bumbles (in my opinion) was how he handled the Iran Nuclear Deal.  He extended the olive leaf.  You can't do that with a country like Iran who openly shows and states that they hate the US and Israel and would rather see us dead. 

Cannot play favorite grandpa in world affairs. ;D
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2023, 09:52:42 AM »
I respectfully disagree.  I think because biden has shown indecisiveness and weakness in resolve,
NK has become more bold and were keen to how other powers like Russia and others in the middle east were responding to the POTUS's weakness.

Seeing that these powers are intent on dismantling the US's infuence in world affairs, NK has swiftly seen the opportunity to cripple their largest enemy by aligning with these nations.  They know they cannot do it by themselves.

Peace through strength. Might not be a perfect peace but a whole lot better than the situation we are in now.  In less than 4 years biden's foreign policy "expertise" messed it up.  I believe our enemies saw the opportunity and they are taking it.

One of his bumbles (in my opinion) was how he handled the Iran Nuclear Deal.  He extended the olive leaf.  You can't do that with a country like Iran who openly shows and states that they hate the US and Israel and would rather see us dead. 

Cannot play favorite grandpa in world affairs. ;D

All of that is true, but the reality is actually much simpler. 

Biden vowed to undo everything Trump accomplished in his 4 years.  Nothing Trump successfully executed will be allowed to exist so his legacy will be 100% failure.

That plan has been evident since Biden's 1st week on the job -- in spite of the negative consequences to the nation or any other country.

North Korea is a direct result of Biden's efforts to undermine Trump's administration.  Even if Biden were the most effective president in modern history, his anti-Trump agenda would have had the same results.  There's no indication Biden or his advisors came to any relevant policies based on careful analysis and decision-making.

So, while his agenda is a direct result of his TDS-fueled incompetence, the situation with NK is a direct result of that agenda.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: The result of a weak and incompetent POTUS
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2023, 11:02:58 PM »
I respectfully disagree.  I think because biden has shown indecisiveness and weakness in resolve,
NK has become more bold and were keen to how other powers like Russia and others in the middle east were responding to the POTUS's weakness.

Seeing that these powers are intent on dismantling the US's infuence in world affairs, NK has swiftly seen the opportunity to cripple their largest enemy by aligning with these nations.  They know they cannot do it by themselves.

Peace through strength. Might not be a perfect peace but a whole lot better than the situation we are in now.  In less than 4 years biden's foreign policy "expertise" messed it up.  I believe our enemies saw the opportunity and they are taking it.

One of his bumbles (in my opinion) was how he handled the Iran Nuclear Deal.  He extended the olive leaf.  You can't do that with a country like Iran who openly shows and states that they hate the US and Israel and would rather see us dead. 

Cannot play favorite grandpa in world affairs. ;D

To be clear, I am not saying Biden's weakness is not a factor, I simply don't think it is the only factor or biggest factor.

I think it is fat head just flexing his little muscle, nothing serious is going to happen from him. Thats my prediction.