Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up (Read 2953 times)

Chrashd

Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« on: December 20, 2023, 10:36:51 AM »
United States Steel to be sold to Nippon Steel. How is this a good idea??

hvybarrels

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2023, 12:35:46 AM »
Have to give credit where credit is due. Not a big Fetterman fan but thank goodness one Democrat hasn't completely lost track of the big picture.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2023, 08:13:11 AM »
Have to give credit where credit is due. Not a big Fetterman fan but thank goodness one Democrat hasn't completely lost track of the big picture.
Yeah, but the big picture for him is drawn in Crayon....

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Chrashd

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2023, 09:17:09 AM »
Sometimes crayon stands out bold! Not a big fan either but I feel this country is falling fast.I waited for my father at the US Steel Clairton gate when I was 5yrs old. Sky was red at night from the blast furnace and open hearth,We had American flags in our classrooms I am sad to see the direction we are headed.

changemyoil66

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2023, 10:08:46 AM »
1st he shows sides with Israel (waves their flag), now this.  I wonder if he wants out of politics as he's going against the DNC's nature.  If we see him vote against any anti 2A bills, then we will know for sure.

Kind of like how some Disney stars act crazy so Disney drops them due to the bad image. Then they're free to do what ever they want to (Miley Cyrus, Brittney Spears)

zippz

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2023, 10:17:27 AM »
I'm not sure if the sale is an issue as while steel production is a national security issue, there are many steel companies in the US, and it's not the difficult endeavor it once was.

He did a speech on the border issue and he almost sounded normal and made sense.  And his support for Israel.  As if the progressives cast a mind control curse on him and it's wearing off.

QUIETShooter

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2023, 10:55:53 AM »
Maybe he's going where the money is.  Don't they all?
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2023, 01:17:19 PM »
Maybe he's going where the money is.  Don't they all?

The money isn't on the logical or ethical side.

ren

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2023, 01:36:04 PM »
there must be a scientific explanation, hows Japanese steel doing?
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2023, 03:09:27 PM »
there must be a scientific explanation, hows Japanese steel doing?

You know they make better stuff than the US does. I'm intrigued by their new EV battery.  It isn't going to be lithium.

Chrashd

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2023, 03:43:43 PM »
 American steel was the best in the world, now India is ahead of us in production and technology. Cheaper to buy foreign than renovate to keep up with new technology. Do the shareholders profit regardless of the ownership?? Will the STEELERS have to change their name??

hvybarrels

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2023, 04:20:54 PM »
Will the STEELERS have to change their name??

Pittsburg Subsidiaries doesn’t quite ring the same
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

groveler

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2023, 04:59:47 PM »
Everybody misses one important point, Unions and EPA destroyed the US steel industry.
There was a time when like the EPA and unions were necessary. things were bad.  But laws have caught up
and both are no longer necessary, but still are around to EFF things up.
The Japanese company made what looks like an overly generous offer for the company.
Is It possible they see a future market that will be very profitable and worth the expense?
Most USA corporations can't see beyond the next quarter, thus they get bought up by people
that can plan things out.
Yes, I'm blaming corporate greed also.
The people running a corporation have a  fiduciary responsibility to share holders,
so some aggression to costs is to be expected.
But unions and EPA regulation have become so costly both monetarily and politically the corporations have said
Fu$k it and left.
Guys who run corporations and shareholders still get their money so they could care less.
Union will get squat in the long run.
EPA get funding from Union supported Democrats.  Vicious cycle.
Japanese will break that cycle for US Steel and make lots of money.
Full disclosure, I spent the majority of my working life as a union member.
AFL-CIO, SPEEA, and ILWU.
Companies that were AFL-CIO and ILWU were sold off.
 :thumbsup:







Wchiro

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2023, 01:51:43 PM »
Japanese will break that cycle for US Steel and make lots of money.
Full disclosure, I spent the majority of my working life as a union member.
AFL-CIO, SPEEA, and ILWU.
Companies that were AFL-CIO and ILWU were sold off.
 :thumbsup:

IMO the unions are not really working for the workers but for themselves. Think about it, the more money/benefits they can get for the workers. the more they can siphon off the workers in the form of dues, maybe even free medical for themselves.  Ever noticed that when you get new union officers they are slim and in about 5 years or so they seem to be a bit overweight (probably from all the steak dinners in the form of union meetings).  Sorry  :stopjack:

eyeeatingfish

Re: Sale of U.S. Steel....John Fetterman steps up
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2023, 11:47:45 PM »
Have to give credit where credit is due. Not a big Fetterman fan but thank goodness one Democrat hasn't completely lost track of the big picture.
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He is becoming quite the respectable democrat.
Defends Israel
Calls democrats to deal with their criminal member
Said he wasn't a progressive,
etc.,