Every HPD officers swears an oath which states in part, “…support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Hawaii…” But not many officers take their oath seriously.

Every HPD officers swears an oath which states in part, “…support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Hawaii…” But not many officers take their oath seriously.

Many people in HI who take that oath don't take it seriously who are state/city workers.

https://youtu.be/vDRkHIhusYI?si=-f3-MLqg-xJR-iSa

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Stop spreading misinformations. Everything is fine. If you want your permit you can get your permit. Just gonna have to wait a few years to figure out the rules

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/12/30/honolulu-police-chief-clears-up-confusion-new-guns-law-are-set-go-into-effect/

This is me in 2024.

   Bought lots of it.  Going to be an entertaining year.

Stop spreading misinformations. Everything is fine. If you want your permit you can get your permit. Just gonna have to wait a few years to figure out the rules

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/12/30/honolulu-police-chief-clears-up-confusion-new-guns-law-are-set-go-into-effect/

Ive never heard anyone say hpd isnt accepting their apps. But instead hpd wont isse the PTA until after additional info is sibmitted due to the new law effective on 1/1.

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Did I miss something? Is a mental health clearance required for all PTA's now, or only if you check the box or a record pops up.
I can't say as I have ever seen a shrink or have one on retainer.

Did I miss something? Is a mental health clearance required for all PTA's now, or only if you check the box or a record pops up.
I can't say as I have ever seen a shrink or have one on retainer.

These are the latest "Proposed Rules".

[§15-15] §21-15-15 Procedures for acquiring and registering
firearms. (a) Any person attempting to acquire a firearm of any description,
whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, shall
appear at the Firearms Unit during normal business hours and submit:
...
(5) Mental health information as provided in subsection (c).
...
(c) To allow the Chief to determine whether the applicant has “the
essential character or temperament necessary to be entrusted with a firearm”
pursuant to Section 134-2(e), Hawaii Revised Statutes, and whether the applicant
satisfies the requirements of Section 134-7(c) or 134-7(e), Hawaii Revised
Statutes, the Chief shall consider:
(1) Information from a health care provider indicating that the person
has had suicidal or homicidal thoughts or tendencies within the
preceding five years. To allow the Chief to make this
determination, the applicant shall provide:
(A) The completed and signed HIPAA compliant authorization
for release of all mental health information, including
psychiatric, behavioral health, and substance abuse
information, from all medical sources, including but not
limited to all health care providers, health care plans,
clinics, laboratories, pharmacies, medical facilities, other
health care providers, and government entities. The
applicant shall also complete any forms required by the
applicant’s health care provider or relevant government
entity for release of mental health information;
(B) The completed and signed State of Hawaii, Adult Mental
Health Division Authorization for Use or Disclosure of
Protected Health Information form, if required by the State
of Hawaii; and
(C) Information as required by Section 134-2(c)(2), Hawaii
Revised Statutes.
(2) Statements or actions by the person indicating any dangerous
propensity or violent animus toward one or more individuals or
groups, including groups based on race, color, national origin,
ancestry, sex, gender identity, gender expression, sexual
orientation, age, disability, religion, or any other characteristic, and
the propensity or animus is of a nature or to an extent that would
objectively indicate to a reasonable observer that it would not be in
the interest of the public health, safety, or welfare for the person to
own, possess, or control a firearm or ammunition. The Chief may
consider information provided as part of the application, as well as
any other information available to the Honolulu Police Department
or the general public, in making this determination; and
(3) Other information that would lead a reasonable, objective observer
to conclude that the person presents or would present a danger to
the community as a result of acquiring or possessing a firearm or
intends or is likely to use a firearm for an unlawful purpose or in
an unlawful manner. In making this determination, the Chief shall
consider the totality of the circumstances, including the following
objective factors:
(A) Whether the applicant has been involved in any incidents of
alleged domestic violence within the three years preceding
the application;
(B) Whether the applicant has been involved in any incidents of
careless handling, storage, or carrying of a firearm within
the three years preceding the application;
(C) Whether the applicant has been involved in incidents of
abuse of alcohol, intoxicating liquor, or controlled
substances, including but not limited to operating a vehicle
under the influence of an intoxicant, within the three years
preceding the application;
(D) Whether the applicant has been involved in a crime of
violence within the three years preceding the application;
(E) Any other specific and articulable indicia that would
indicate to a reasonable observer, when considering
relevant objective factors, that the applicant lacks the
character or temperament to be entrusted with a firearm;
and
(F) Any other factors provided by law.
The Chief shall give more weight to incidents that are serious or
recent, and less weight to incidents that are minor or occurred in
the distant past. For purposes of this section, “involved in”
generally requires a conviction or other court ruling; however, the
Chief may also consider evidence that the applicant has been
repeatedly arrested for or otherwise repeatedly involved in
dangerous or violent conduct that would lead a reasonable,
objective observer to conclude that the person presents or would
present a danger to the community as a result of acquiring or
possessing a firearm or is likely to use a firearm for an unlawful
purpose or in an unlawful manner. The Records and Identification
Division shall adopt a Manual of Procedure to provide additional
objective guidelines in implementing this section. The Chief may
consider information provided as part of the application, as well as
any other information available to the Honolulu Police Department
or the general public, in making these determinations.
The burden to prove that the applicant “lacks the essential character or
temperament necessary to be entrusted with a firearm” is on the Honolulu Police
Department. The Chief shall issue a Permit to an applicant who meets all relevant
qualifications unless the Honolulu Police Department possesses specific and
articulable information demonstrating that the applicant lacks the essential
character or temperament necessary to be entrusted with a firearm.

https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Proposed-Amendments-to-Chapter-15-Rules-of-the-Chief-posted-12.8.23-for-hearing-1.9.24.pdf

Thanks Guy!