Highlights:

From 14 to 40 days to get permit.  Apparently for Mental Health background check.

Permit to aquire 6 approved instructors.

Liscence to Carry 46 approved instructors.

Current CCW instructors credentials are still valid, they just have to teach/add the mental health stuff.  This is against what the law says, but guess HPD is giving them a pass on this one.

HPD is approving instructors for the handgun safety class before the chiefs rules have been finalized. Again, HPD giving a pass on this one and not complying with the rules.

Logan confirmed due to a court order, they cannot enforce some of the senstiive places law. See Wolfford post in the legal section.

Did he say multiple firearms per carry license @11:17?

Did he say multiple firearms per carry license @11:17?

Yes, the PC is a clusterfuck.  I mean, the enitre process is as well.

Thats great to hear. So process for applying for approval was in place, they just didnt approve anyone until the last minute. Glad to see most of the speculation was unfounded and the sky isnt actually falling. Good job Hpd and Chief Logan.

Personally I think the most of 1230 is still unconstitutional and I hope it will get changed.

focus
the process was not in place
the approvals went out yesterday, the applications were available the day before
they did not even know that they were required to hold meeting until hifico told them a few weeks ago
hifico also had to explain to them what was in the bill a week or so ago, and that's when they came up with the new applications and procedures
the ccw process that was approved is not in order either, they just auto approved everyone, they did not make them reapply

Thats great to hear. So process for applying for approval was in place, they just didnt approve anyone until the last minute. Glad to see most of the speculation was unfounded and the sky isnt actually falling. Good job Hpd and Chief Logan.

Personally I think the most of 1230 is still unconstitutional and I hope it will get changed.

Heel draggers would be a complement
These guys are the slowest moving MF'ers I've seen in my life
If they moved any slower, they'd be going backwards

Was watching the news this morning and heard that one will have to go to a certified instructor to get a permit to acquire for both and gun and long gun and the waiting period is now 40 days… the old lady was yakking her head off and I’m too old to listen to both so not to sure I heard correctly……

no worries crime rate is down...
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/string-of-smash-n-grab-crimes-has-oahu-restaurants-on-high-alert/article_c4023aee-a6ba-11ee-99b3-eff9fb929f75.html

This is from Civil Beat, May 2022:

HPD also provided Honolulu City Council data late last month showing a more than
42% increase in crimes involving guns, knives or other weapons compared to last year.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/05/crime-on-oahu-is-bouncing-back-to-pre-pandemic-levels/

So, crime -- violent  crime -- was up in 2022 more than 42% over 2021.

People went out and bought guns in large numbers; tasers, stun guns, and batons are now legal to carry; concealed carry finally became legal here; and the crime rate is now down?

This, while the HI police departments still struggles with staffing shortages.

Sounds like the media needs to take a closer look at the reason crime stats dropped after the Bruen decision.  i don't think we can credit law enforcement, the legislature, the mayor or the governor.

I watched the whole thing and the crap detector started beeping after the first minute.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/12/31/woman-charged-with-murder-after-allegedly-trying-hit-police-officer-with-car/

After listening to Logan studdering and mumbling about how the latest new laws can be found on their website, the question is…. Where is it?. January 1st and it’s the same old information on their website. Idiots.

Happy New Year

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After listening to Logan studdering and mumbling about how the latest new laws can be found on their website, the question is…. Where is it?. January 1st and it’s the same old information on their website. Idiots.

Happy New Year

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Logan is a f..cking idiot…. He has more excuses than the mafia’s Teflon Don….nothing sticks…..always someone else’s fault…

so the wait period went from 14 days to 40 days?  WTF!  and I'm sure they'll count that as business days, i.e. 2 months before you can pick up your PTA.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/12/30/honolulu-police-chief-clears-up-confusion-new-guns-law-are-set-go-into-effect/

"The police chief said the application process to acquire a gun is being extended from 14 to 40 days.
Applicants will now need to undergo a mental health evaluation."

Logan is a f..cking idiot…. He has more excuses than the mafia’s Teflon Don….nothing sticks…..always someone else’s fault…

Az why you can be sure da Mayor, Police Comission and most all of the politicians love him.

with the new mental health requirement, would a Dr.'s clearance note satisfy this requirement? or has to go through the new BS?
bc kaiser policy is for doctors to not answer any firearms letters.  the letter from hpd goes straight to the general mail room and they send back a  copy of any psychologist notes if you ever had a visit with one then its up to hpd to red flag you or not. kaiser would have to change their policy to comply with hpd's new policy, other wise its the same as before as far as kaiser is concerned

with the new mental health requirement, would a Dr.'s clearance note satisfy this requirement? or has to go through the new BS?
bc kaiser policy is for doctors to not answer any firearms letters.  the letter from hpd goes straight to the general mail room and they send back a  copy of any psychologist notes if you ever had a visit with one then its up to hpd to red flag you or not. kaiser would have to change their policy to comply with hpd's new policy, other wise its the same as before as far as kaiser is concerned

1 part is you have to list all your primary doctors, not just your current one. IDK how Kaiser will treat this.

1 part is you have to list all your primary doctors, not just your current one. IDK how Kaiser will treat this.

as if your colonoscopy doctor, or dentist will be able to provide relevant insight.  Doctors will tend to choose the path that provides the least liability.