More info being released ..... and lost.

It was not just a window.  It was a "door plug" that's inserted and bolted in where an optional door can be added if the configuration requires it.

Now we hear that the "black box" recorder for that flight had been erased.

 

Loss of Alaska cockpit recording
rekindles industry safety debate

The cockpit voice recorder data on the Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 jet
which lost a panel mid-flight on Friday was overwritten, U.S. authorities said,
renewing attention on long-standing safety calls for longer in-flight recordings.

National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) chair Jennifer Homendy said on
Sunday no data was available on the cockpit voice recorder because it was not
retrieved within two hours - when recording restarts, erasing previous data.

The U.S. requires cockpit voice recorders to log two hours of data versus 25
hours in Europe for planes made after 2021.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/alaska-737-cockpit-voice-recorder-data-erasure-renews-industry-safety-debate-2024-01-08/

Which airline's lawyers came up with THAT standard?  Two hours? 

Most dash cams record half a day or more dependng on the media capacity.

Maybe the pilot forgot to hit the "save" button so it wouldn't be overwritten?

"Garmin.  Save video."

Which airline's lawyers came up with THAT standard?  Two hours? 

Most dash cams record half a day or more dependng on the media capacity.

Maybe the pilot forgot to hit the "save" button so it wouldn't be overwritten?

"Garmin.  Save video."

I heard to prevent rerecording in an airline incident, the pilot has to trip the circuit breaker.

I heard to prevent rerecording in an airline incident, the pilot has to trip the circuit breaker.

That's crazy.

Sounds like the airlines didn't want to pay extra for the 1GB memory upgrade.

 

That's crazy.

Sounds like the airlines didn't want to pay extra for the 1GB memory upgrade.

 

I suspect the pilots’ union may have had something to do with it.

“Every word you say while you’re at work is going to be recorded and saved, mmmkay? But we promise not to listen unless there’s some sort of mishap…” 

An iphone was found to have fallen 16,000 feet from the plane and survived... could be their new advertising model

Interesting that nobody was sitting there

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As the story unfolds, they knew there was a problem with those planes but tried to keep them operating as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if their reservation computers were programmed to keep those seats open.

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As the story unfolds, they knew there was a problem with those planes but tried to keep them operating as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if their reservation computers were programmed to keep those seats open.

Honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.  Seems like when there are incidences like these, there is an immediate sense of a cover up.

It's depressing for me as I've been noticing it's almost a normal response nowadays.

So who killed JFK again?

Honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.  Seems like when there are incidences like these, there is an immediate sense of a cover up.

It's depressing for me as I've been noticing it's almost a normal response nowadays.

So who killed JFK again?

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Lol. Trump killed JFK. The true story can now be told.
But seriously,  if I ran the airline, I would probably do the same thing. You have to keep your planes up in the air to stay in business.

It's like certain beaches on Maui. The folks who live there know not to swim or surf certain places because get sharks over there. But you can't tell the tourists or malahini because it might affect business or invite a lawsuit.

sure looks like the two seats next to the panel were left open
plane had already been taken out of over water service because pressurization warnings were going off
but they thought that the light was the malfunctioning part because warning went off one time while on the ground...

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As the story unfolds, they knew there was a problem with those planes but tried to keep them operating as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if their reservation computers were programmed to keep those seats open.

sure looks like the two seats next to the panel were left open
plane had already been taken out of over water service because pressurization warnings were going off
but they thought that the light was the malfunctioning part because warning went off one time while on the ground...

Sounds like they did the "tap tap" test on the light.

In December of 2022, a Boeing 777 operated by United Airlines took off from Hawaii in heavy rain. About a minute into the flight, the aircraft plummeted towards the ocean. It came just 750 feet from hitting the water at high-speed, which almost certainly would have killed all 280 people on board. In the end, the pilots saved the aircraft by a matter of seconds.

For more than two months, no one heard about this incident. It was as if it had never happened. By the time mainstream news reports began appearing in February, more than two months later, United assured the public that the FAA had been notified and that an investigation would be forthcoming.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-dei-rot-in-the-airline-industry-is-way-worse-than-you-think



United is probably the worst

https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/company/responsibility/diversity-and-inclusion.html