Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements (Read 47530 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2024, 08:18:28 AM »
If I'm not mistaken that is him in the background overlooking a child operating a rather large caliber handgun with a scope....eye relief anyone? Is that a teachable concept? Finger on the trigger :o



I see it all the time, instructors who should not be allowed to teach. In my opinion. mudafucka.


For us we can tell when an instructor is full of shiite.  Problem is, the gun hating sheeple out there wouldn't know sh*t from shinola about these things.

This yo-yo has done more damage for the 2a cause than anyone could possibly imagine.  And it seems all in the name of good ole capitalism.

It seems he doesn't care about 2nd amendment rights, or whether the rules are constitutional or not.  Just pay your f*ckn fees, and get the f*ck outta here.  I made my money.  Good Luck........Thank you for coming. ::) ::) ::)  Oh by the way, did you like my gun-toting hotties?  That'll be $50 more if you want your pic with them.

I still cannot wrap my head around some of his statements.  If he is only interested in making money on his classes, then go and testify that he supports the new Chief's rules.

WTF is this about testifying about some CCW licensees shouldn't even carry a gun?  Who the f*ck died and made him supreme grand poobah of who gets to carry a gun?

Total kiss-a$$ motherf*cker.  :grrr:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

stangzilla

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2024, 08:32:56 AM »
Do you need a scope on a 500 S&W magnum at an indoor range?
Are you allowed to shoot that caliber at indoor range?
Is that an indoor range? I'm not sure
Either way, I just dont like this guy
If you not part of the solution, you part of the problem. Pick a side. Dont walk the fence. I hate fence walkers

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2024, 08:47:44 AM »
If I am not mistaken, he seemed to speak with an accent. I was wondering whether he wasn't articulating his point well out of a difficulty in English?

I get what he was getting at in terms of dangerous firearm carriers, I have seen numerous times where people either don't know or don't practice good firearm safety.

I think he is an example of the moderate type or gun rights supporters. I understand the grievances people have with what he has to say but I think we do worse to turn him into an enemy.

I've spoken to him and he knows how to articulate his thoughts well.  So there is no language barrier.

There are rumors about his classes, which I wasn't there so I cannot confirm them.  So you thinking people can do worse to turn him into an enemy, isn't true.

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2024, 08:49:28 AM »
If I'm not mistaken that is him in the background overlooking a child operating a rather large caliber handgun with a scope....eye relief anyone? Is that a teachable concept? Finger on the trigger :o



I've seen worst. Prime Sports has a Vortex poster by their door. The guy's eye is about 1/4 an inch away from the scope.  I expect more from Vortex.

rpoL98

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2024, 08:57:00 AM »
If I'm not mistaken that is him in the background overlooking a child operating a rather large caliber handgun with a scope....eye relief anyone? Is that a teachable concept? Finger on the trigger :o


i am sure that is a staged photo.  it has to be.  otherwise, somewhere, there is a kid that's wearing a pirate eye patch.  so, it's one for the IG & FB likes.  we have to assume that, otherwise it defies logic.
probably cool for people who don't shoot, for for the kid to show his friends and class mates, or those who don't know any better.

perhaps not quite Alec Baldwin "Rust" level.

in any event, dat Mudafuka has certainly kicked the hornet's nest.

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2024, 09:02:17 AM »
i am sure that is a staged photo.  it has to be.  otherwise, somewhere, there is a kid that's wearing a pirate eye patch.  so, it's one for the IG & FB likes.  we have to assume that, otherwise it defies logic.
probably cool for people who don't shoot, for for the kid to show his friends and class mates, or those who don't know any better.

perhaps not quite Alec Baldwin "Rust" level.

in any event, dat Mudafuka has certainly kicked the hornet's nest.

Add in the rumors about his safety, and this adds to it.

drck1000

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2024, 09:06:41 AM »
If I am not mistaken, he seemed to speak with an accent. I was wondering whether he wasn't articulating his point well out of a difficulty in English?

SNIP
It's the responsibility of the speaker to ensure the message is conveyed in an appropriate manner, including being aware of audience and how the message would be received and could be used/twisted. 

His IG response, he double downed that folks who took issue "didn't understand him".  No. . . I think many understood full well.

If ESL was truly an issue, then he should have considered that in his preparation for testimony on a scheduled event.  No "I'm old Biden excuses". . .

QUIETShooter

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2024, 09:12:56 AM »
Somebody should send this whole thread for him to read.

I would but I don't know how.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2024, 09:22:35 AM »
He was at the range and saw unsafe instruction?

And his solution is more training that costs more?

Did he bother to talk to the "unsafe instructor?"

Did he bother to alert the RSO? 

If at an indoor range, did he notify the management?

Did he stop the lesson and tell his student/s they were taking a break until the "unsafe shooters" left?

If he ignored the problem -- only to air it in a public setting for his own benefit -- then (1) the situation was not really that unsafe, and (2) he's not focused on safety if he allows this kind of behavior to continue near himself, his students and any other shooters. 

A competent instructor would have brought it to the attention of the offender/s and the RSO or removed himself and his student/s from the danger zone.

I call bullshit.  Either it never happened, or he sucks as a range patron.  He sucks more as an instructor responsible for his clients' safety.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2024, 09:58:57 AM »
I tend to cut people some slack because the truth is rarely a black and white issue. I have personally seen instructors who should not be instructors.  I see people shooting guns at the range every week who couldn't hit the side of a house... Not exaggerating.

A few days ago there was a thread about 8 annoying things at the range. One of the topics was offering unsolicited advice. If an instructor is doing bad things, I do not say anything unless it involves a safety issue. It's not my kuleana.

Note...
I used to work very near his shop but never went there and probably  never will.
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2024, 10:01:48 AM »
I tend to cut people some slack because the truth is rarely a black and white issue. I have personally seen instructors who should not be instructors.  I see people shooting guns at the range every week who couldn't hit the side of a house... Not exaggerating.

A few days ago there was a thread about 8 annoying things at the range. One of the topics was offering unsolicited advice. If an instructor is doing bad things, I do not say anything unless it involves a safety issue. It's not my kuleana.

Note...
I used to work very near his shop but never went there and probably  never will.

That's the crux of my comment.  If the situation warranted, saying something to the instructor and RSO would not just be wise, but IMO required, of anyone witnessing it -- especially if that someone is also an instructor and responsible for his class' safety.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Brystont1

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2024, 10:38:28 AM »
i am sure that is a staged photo.  it has to be.  otherwise, somewhere, there is a kid that's wearing a pirate eye patch.  so, it's one for the IG & FB likes.  we have to assume that, otherwise it defies logic.
probably cool for people who don't shoot, for for the kid to show his friends and class mates, or those who don't know any better.

perhaps not quite Alec Baldwin "Rust" level.

in any event, dat Mudafuka has certainly kicked the hornet's nest.

Could be staged photo. However doesn’t excuse the finger on the trigger. Ironic this picture is coming from the guy who teaches classes and complains about the need for firearm safety.

drck1000

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2024, 10:40:41 AM »
SNIP

in any event, dat Mudafuka has certainly kicked the hornet's nest.
"you make me famous baybay"  :rofl:

randay

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2024, 10:43:38 AM »
I tend to cut people some slack because the truth is rarely a black and white issue. I have personally seen instructors who should not be instructors.  I see people shooting guns at the range every week who couldn't hit the side of a house... Not exaggerating.

A few days ago there was a thread about 8 annoying things at the range. One of the topics was offering unsolicited advice. If an instructor is doing bad things, I do not say anything unless it involves a safety issue. It's not my kuleana.

Note...
I used to work very near his shop but never went there and probably  never will.

but he made a response video. its time to stop cutting him slack at that point.

Rocky

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2024, 10:48:38 AM »
girls have the flat face trigger
kit has the snub nose  :D


Not to mention FINGER ON THE TRIGGER !   :shake:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

QUIETShooter

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2024, 10:53:17 AM »
but he made a response video. its time to stop cutting him slack at that point.

To me making a response video is like he's doing damage control.  He cannot undo what he said at the hearing.  He's pouring gasoline on his own fire.

To Kit n Gun, whoever you are.  I suggest next time, you think before opening your mouth.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Rocky

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2024, 11:04:58 AM »
I don't do social media otherwise I would trash his actions.  I might stop by his website though and drop him a "greeting".


    I see the link to his site via facebook has been removed and links via instagram, yelp, mapquest, and youtube are not working.

Did you know that if you advertise on Google, you are CHARGED FOR EVERY CLICK to your site ?    ::)
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2024, 11:08:26 AM »
To me making a response video is like he's doing damage control.  He cannot undo what he said at the hearing.  He's pouring gasoline on his own fire.

To Kit n Gun, whoever you are.  I suggest next time, you think before opening your mouth.

This is what we call a Fudd.  "I support the 2A, but..."

I have a friend who's a new gun owner and agreed with Kit. Then I explained what happened during covid and BLM riots in HI.  Range closed, PTA RSVP failure, etc...He then changed his tune and agreed that no class should be needed to buy a gun.

drck1000

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2024, 11:11:02 AM »

    I see the link to his site via facebook has been removed and links via instagram, yelp, mapquest, and youtube are not working.

Did you know that if you advertise on Google, you are CHARGED FOR EVERY CLICK to your site ?    ::)
His response on IG is stil up. . .

PEBKAC  ???

 :rofl:

randay

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2024, 11:12:22 AM »
To me making a response video is like he's doing damage control.  He cannot undo what he said at the hearing.  He's pouring gasoline on his own fire.

To Kit n Gun, whoever you are.  I suggest next time, you think before opening your mouth.

yes, but he did not do any damage control, except to claim that he is pro-2a. he then called everyone crybabies and mother fuckers, while jerking himself off.