Here's the "assault weapon" bill (Read 20774 times)

changemyoil66

QUIETShooter

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2024, 12:54:21 PM »
First "assault type rifles, shotguns, pistols".

Then lever actions and revolvers.

Then bolt actions and single shots.

The beginnings of an authoritarian state run by demorats.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2024, 01:10:51 PM »
Nice
I like the exceptions for LEO.
So only LEO can have scary looking guns.
After they quit or retire, would they march into the police station and turn them in?
From what I've seen on the news lately there's a lot of supposedly trustworthy upstanding citizens/LEO that can't be trusted with guns nor money.

Meanwhile, we sport shooters and casual  hobbyists are permanently banned from owning some kinds of guns just because they look scary to a politician.
What, Me Worry?

Joman8390

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2024, 01:12:18 PM »
What has stopped these bills in the past? Do we think it’ll be stopped again?

changemyoil66

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2024, 01:16:19 PM »
First "assault type rifles, shotguns, pistols".

Then lever actions and revolvers.

Then bolt actions and single shots.

The beginnings of an authoritarian state run by demorats.

U left out pistols. This will be after assault type stuff.

changemyoil66

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2024, 01:17:40 PM »
What has stopped these bills in the past? Do we think it’ll be stopped again?

THe last mag ban bill our testimony stopped it. We had 1500 people write testimony.  Compare this to the 80-130 people who wrote testimony for SB1230 last year which changed all the permit to acquire processes and CCW, added in only can CCW on the sidewalk, etc...

So we shall see how many people write in this time.

pacwire

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2024, 01:22:13 PM »
Se WE ALL need to ca///wirte etc to stop this bill from advancing.  Look at the new requirement from SB1230.  If we did out part in numbers, the outcome would have been different!


SO WE ALL NEED TO SHOW UP !  IF YOU DON"T, DONT COMPLAIN!

We already know it's ILLEGAL BUT let's rally and make a difference!

Aloha!


QUIETShooter

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2024, 01:40:53 PM »
Nice
I like the exceptions for LEO.
So only LEO can have scary looking guns.
After they quit or retire, would they march into the police station and turn them in?
From what I've seen on the news lately there's a lot of supposedly trustworthy upstanding citizens/LEO that can't be trusted with guns nor money.

Meanwhile, we sport shooters and casual  hobbyists are permanently banned from owning some kinds of guns just because they look scary to a politician.

Last I remember a member of HPD left a rifle unattended that could have gotten themselves, bystanders, and the perp hurt or killed.  Perp ended up killed.  Wouldn't have if HPD didn't leave that rifle unattended.

To all the gun haters and anti-2a people out there, a humble PSA:  When seconds count, LE is minutes away.  That is the sad reality RIGHT NOW.  If there is a WROL (Without Rule of Law) situation how long do you all think it will take for LE to show up?  Answer:  They won't.  Period.  You are on your own.  How about your beloved Politicians?  Will they be running around trying courageously to restore law and order?  Answer: No.

You will be at the mercy of the same criminals that existed before WROL.  Only thing now is that thin layer of protection is no longer there.

Good luck, dear sheeple.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2024, 02:43:56 PM »
This bill also includes parts, so if something breaks, you got a paper weight.

You also cannot take your gun out of state and bring it back either. So no smithing or competitions or hunting.

QUIETShooter

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2024, 02:58:18 PM »
You know, I used to always use "banana republik" in a joking sense for hawaii.

Then I started using it as a half-joke.

I don't think we can even joke about it anymore if this crap goes through.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2024, 03:04:00 PM »
Even CA compliant "featurelss" rifles won't count as they still have a handguard.

randay

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2024, 05:04:09 PM »
What has stopped these bills in the past? Do we think it’ll be stopped again?

laws that instantly turn law abiding citizens into felons usually get stopped once each/some representatives  are made aware of the fact that their constituents are the ones who would be made into felons. when the time comes, make sure you do your part and we might have a chance.

macsak

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2024, 05:08:02 PM »
actually, the time is now
you can call your senator/rep right now and let them know
it can just not be heard, and it is dead automatically...

laws that instantly turn law abiding citizens into felons usually get stopped once each/some representatives  are made aware of the fact that their constituents are the ones who would be made into felons. when the time comes, make sure you do your part and we might have a chance.

changemyoil66

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2024, 06:15:41 PM »
The CA AWB lawsuit drew a DNC controlled panel, so doesn't look good for us.  Meaning HI can pass this and it won't go to SCOTUS.

E808AN

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2024, 06:54:41 PM »
Definitely will be submitting a testimony against this. When we submit a testimony speaking against this bill. What do we put in the message part.

changemyoil66

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2024, 08:15:17 PM »
Definitely will be submitting a testimony against this. When we submit a testimony speaking against this bill. What do we put in the message part.
How it affects u personally. Stating unconstitutional will get ur message overlooked.

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groveler

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2024, 10:11:56 PM »
This is germane, but why this fascination with outlawing guns when
the people of Lahina have no place to live?
I can no longer vote  in Hawaii, but I'll ask my wife if she wants to comment.
But the Honolulu and Maui people that vote for these guys are IDIOTS!
 :grrr:

hvybarrels

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2024, 11:35:28 PM »
This is germane, but why this fascination with outlawing guns when
the people of Lahina have no place to live?

Because if the truth about Lahaina ever gained widespread acceptance...
The F in Communism stands for Food

Rocky

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2024, 07:12:10 AM »
Because if the truth about Lahaina ever gained widespread acceptance...
Will be closed for another 5 yrs.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

rpoL98

Re: Here's the "assault weapon" bill
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2024, 04:02:02 PM »
Definitely will be submitting a testimony against this. When we submit a testimony speaking against this bill. What do we put in the message part.
the best way, is to read the bill, and then make notes to yourself everything you think is wrong with it, your reaction to it.  that's your testimony, doesn't have to be pretty, doesn't have to be Shakespeare, doesn't even have to be grammatically correct, or even spelled correctly (e.g. Texas boarder vs Texas border).

just has to be from you.

problem is, most folks don't have the time to read the bill, or don't make the time to read it,  "ain't got time fo dat".    and then the ainokea, which runs rampant in this state, which Karl Rhoads takes advantage of.