You have to watch the segment: So what happened!?!  Time mark 2:36.


Glad Officer Cody is doing okay, too.  He's lucky to be alive.     

I'm glad those officers closed in quick, because whoever was in that white car sure looked like they wanted to run the guy over which would have been bad for the profession.

I don't know why the suspect ran into the officer with the dash cams car. 

I'm glad those officers closed in quick, because whoever was in that white car sure looked like they wanted to run the guy over which would have been bad for the profession.

I don't know why the suspect ran into the officer with the dash cams car. 

Yep.  The fleeing murder suspect ran directly at him.

I've never seen a grown man fly like that who wan't parachuting.

 

I don't know why the suspect ran into the officer with the dash cams car. 

Might've been an unmarked car or had its flashers off.  I didn't see any flashing lights in the vidm

But the perp did a good barrel roll in the air, but didn't stick the landing.

Might've been an unmarked car or had its flashers off.  I didn't see any flashing lights in the vidm

But the perp did a good barrel roll in the air, but didn't stick the landing.

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parkour fail video

my takeaways from it.
Officer drew his gun quickly but had trouble shooting one handed under stress.  Better to shoot two handed with a weapon mounted light.  Might've been more effective if the officer dropped his flashlight and fired two handed.

Car drove up behind the perp in the line of fire during the shooting.

Cop had a long way to run.  Might've been better to hold ground and return fire instead.

Practice shooting and reloading from the ground.

Officer seems to have panicked and retreated in a straight line, exposing himself while leaving the suspect behind cover. Can't say I would have done any better in that situation, but it's definitely a great example why practicing lateral movement is important.

Officer seems to have panicked and retreated in a straight line, exposing himself while leaving the suspect behind cover. Can't say I would have done any better in that situation, but it's definitely a great example why practicing lateral movement is important.

Gaining distance makes it more.difficupt to get hit, especially with most criminals not being skilled shooting pistols and vast majority of criminals will flee at first chance.

But that was a lot of ground to cover and it gave the bad guy an.easy target that wasn't shooting back.

Unfortunately for this cop, this wasn't the typical criminal.
The perp didn't flee and seemed to have good skills, shooting two handed with good control, and taking cover.

Crossed his thumbs.

The cop was lucky in the end.

I'm so curious as to why that perp was so triggered that he actually did what he did.

I'm so curious as to why that perp was so triggered that he actually did what he did.

The suspect in this case, "Cristobal Santana" is not only a suspect in a prior murder, but was also involved in two instances of domestic violence as well. Santana was the subject of two orders of protection. Police temporarily took Santana's gun (it was a Glock, lol) away. Santana was arrested, but not charged.

He probably knew his time was coming to an end.

This case highlights two CrimJ aspects that are continuing problems:

1) "Catch and release" is a consequence of Constitutionality. You have the right to a speedy trial. Any decent defense attorney could easily defeat a half-assed case brought by the state. A defendant only waives their right to the 6th if it is to their advantage, such as when the state has prepared an adequate case and they need time for a defense. As such, charges must be brought (generally) within 72 hours. If charges cannot or will not be brought, you MUST release the prisoner.

2) Communication between departments is historically poor, especially when it comes to Federal and State Police. Officer Chapman-Green, like others before him, had no idea how dangerous the occupant of that vehicle was when he initiated the traffic stop. In 2021, Officer Darrion Jarrott was killed when he pulled over a Federally Wanted Person, despite an active State and Federal arrest team waiting to engage the suspect, Omar Cueva, only a few miles down the same I-10 Interstate where Officer Jarrott's traffic happened to occur. Had information related to the danger of Cueva or the status of the Federal and State arrest team been relayed to Officer Jarrott when he radioed in, surely he would have been ordered to disengage.

You have to watch the segment: So what happened!?!  Time mark 2:36.


Glad Officer Cody is doing okay, too.  He's lucky to be alive.     

Pretty damn obvious he wasn't trying to kill the cop as it is also obvious the guy knew how to shoot.
Plus the guy knew the cop likely wore body armor.
Suspect was trying to buy time to get away.
Like most idiots, he didn't realize just how bad cops want to take revenge on those that oppose
or disobey them. They need to make deadly examples.
Kind of like SS officers in WW II.
Our cops are not much better.
That being said, why was that murderer out on the streets?
They had him once. and let him out.
 

Pretty damn obvious he wasn't trying to kill the cop as it is also obvious the guy knew how to shoot.
Plus the guy knew the cop likely wore body armor.
Suspect was trying to buy time to get away.
Like most idiots, he didn't realize just how bad cops want to take revenge on those that oppose
or disobey them. They need to make deadly examples.
Kind of like SS officers in WW II.
Our cops are not much better.
That being said, why was that murderer out on the streets?
They had him once. and let him out.
 

Were your VA prescriptions late this month?  Do you need us to contact anyone?

Pretty damn obvious he wasn't trying to kill the cop as it is also obvious the guy knew how to shoot.
Plus the guy knew the cop likely wore body armor.
Suspect was trying to buy time to get away.

 

Cop should be dead if the bad guy wanted it to happen.
May be an ego and dominance thing.  Bad guy initially wants to shoot and kill cop.  When the cop ran, fell, and was rendered defenseless, bad guy felt dominating the cop was better than killing him.

Cop should be dead if the bad guy wanted it to happen.
May be an ego and dominance thing.  Bad guy initially wants to shoot and kill cop.  When the cop ran, fell, and was rendered defenseless, bad guy felt dominating the cop was better than killing him.

Not choosing the most efficient means of slaying does not mean death was not intended. Yes, he could've taken the cops gun and shot him with it, or stayed to beat the cop longer.

The perpetrator could've expended all of his rounds or had a serious weapon malfunction and was unable to continue firing. Perhaps the officers firearm was lost during the encounter, or the thought of using it escaped the perps mind. Maybe the perp thought the officer was already dead, or felt he did not have time to escape if the beating continued. It could also be that the perp, despite looking like he's a good shot, incidentally hit the cop in the legs rather than the head.

One can speculate on what drove the perpetrator to attack the officer (and allegedly engage in prior criminal behavior), but I think the perps intent to kill was very clear.

Were your VA prescriptions late this month?  Do you need us to contact anyone?

Thank you my VA meds are for pain and physical problems.
My doctors think I'm pretty safe and normal.
My Politics must piss some people off as I don't like cops or their Democrat enabler bosses.
here in Hawaii there aren't enough Republicans to blame and bitch about.

A while back in NM I think, a guy pulled over in a traffic stop,  executed a cop,  all recorded
on Cop dash cam.
That is what I meant when I said the Perp in this case, didn't want to kill.  He could have done so,
he had the upper-hand..

My other remark refers to the way cops act when one is shot.  Your kid get shot,  they take reports,
a cop gets shot and you can ignore most all traffic laws as they will all be busy catching (getting even with)
the attacker. at least in the short term.
It would be interesting if cops in Chicago got that excited when a kid gets shot. Might have less
of that happening, and less reasons for people to want to take away our guns.
 

Not choosing the most efficient means of slaying does not mean death was not intended. Yes, he could've taken the cops gun and shot him with it, or stayed to beat the cop longer.

The perpetrator could've expended all of his rounds or had a serious weapon malfunction and was unable to continue firing. Perhaps the officers firearm was lost during the encounter, or the thought of using it escaped the perps mind. Maybe the perp thought the officer was already dead, or felt he did not have time to escape if the beating continued. It could also be that the perp, despite looking like he's a good shot, incidentally hit the cop in the legs rather than the head.

One can speculate on what drove the perpetrator to attack the officer (and allegedly engage in prior criminal behavior), but I think the perps intent to kill was very clear.

I take it you didn't watch the entire video.

It was specifically stated the criminal scum began beating the officer with his handgun after he'd emptied it.

No need to speculate why he didn't shoot him rather than beat him.

I think the officer would have defended himself if he still had his sidearm, so it's a reasonable assumption his firearm was somewhere nearby.  That might have been a factor in him living.

He was shot in both legs.   He was not a threat to the perp.  Yet, the perp chased him down while emptying his gun, and then he tried to finish the job using blunt force to the skull. 

Yeah, he obviously wanted the Cop dead.

Cop should be dead if the bad guy wanted it to happen.
May be an ego and dominance thing.  Bad guy initially wants to shoot and kill cop.  When the cop ran, fell, and was rendered defenseless, bad guy felt dominating the cop was better than killing him.

I'd have to rewatch the video but I thought the guy ran out of ammo. I mean he could have stayed and beat him to death but I would say he was probably more concerned with getting away at that point.

But grover's suggestion that the guy missed shooting the cop on purpose is baseless, it cannot be determined from anything he did in the gunfight.

My other remark refers to the way cops act when one is shot.  Your kid get shot,  they take reports,
a cop gets shot and you can ignore most all traffic laws as they will all be busy catching (getting even with)
the attacker. at least in the short term.
It would be interesting if cops in Chicago got that excited when a kid gets shot. Might have less
of that happening, and less reasons for people to want to take away our guns.
 

Not at all comparable, responding to a kid shot after the incident is a bit different than an active pursuit of someone. If cops had sight of the guy who shot the kid you can bet they would chase them.

Plus the anger you would feel if someone attacked a family member or a close friend is going to be a lot higher than if someone attacked a stranger, but that is not a matter of whether they care or not.

If you watch the video they were very restrained. Once the guy got hit with the car they all approached him and secured him without punching, kicking, etc.

By looking at the video and map of the location, appears the bad guys shot between 50 to 75 feet.  I dont think he was aiming at the legs.  But shot as good or better than your average CCW licensee and surprising for a criminal.