Hawaii Secedes from United States!?! No Longer Bound by U.S. Constitution!?! (Read 9283 times)

Kuleana

So, the answer would be "None what so ever?"
Asking an Aboriginal Hawaiian whether they have a connection to Hawaiian people is nonsensical.

hvybarrels

Asking an Aboriginal Hawaiian whether they have a connection to Hawaiian people is nonsensical.

How about a CCP troll trying to start a race war?

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Kuleana

How about a CCP troll trying to start a race war?
If you are referring to me as a CCP troll, you must be a pro-Putin puppet.

ren

we wont we need money for the rail. sorry to rain in on some peoples partay
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Do the Native Hawaiians even know what they want?  And how they want to govern themselves?

It seems there seems to be differing views even amongst Native Hawaiian groups.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that way every time the issue comes up.  There always seem to be disagreements between different groups.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

you must be a pro-Putin puppet.

Ever consider working for corporate news? Sounds like you would be a good fit. Too bad they are going through massive layoffs because everyone hates them.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Asking an Aboriginal Hawaiian whether they have a connection to Hawaiian people is nonsensical.

You could have answered the question instead of acting all offended.

Just saying....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Do the Native Hawaiians even know what they want?  And how they want to govern themselves?

It seems there seems to be differing views even amongst Native Hawaiian groups.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that way every time the issue comes up.  There always seem to be disagreements between different groups.

I guess that poor, dead horse needs more beating!

 :popcorn:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Do the Native Hawaiians even know what they want?  And how they want to govern themselves?

It seems there seems to be differing views even amongst Native Hawaiian groups.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that way every time the issue comes up.  There always seem to be disagreements between different groups.

I remember when that group of claimed royalty took over the OHA building.

Kuleana

Ever consider working for corporate news? Sounds like you would be a good fit. Too bad they are going through massive layoffs because everyone hates them.
Sure.

I did not know there exists a news outlet that speaks out against US imperialism; the unending anti-Russia and anti-China rhetoric; and need for the US empire to vacate the sovereign nations that they are illegally occupying (e.g. Iraq, Syria, Hawaii, etc.).

ren

Sure.

I did not know there exists a news outlet that speaks out against US imperialism; the unending anti-Russia and anti-China rhetoric; and need for the US empire to vacate the sovereign nations that they are illegally occupying (e.g. Iraq, Syria, Hawaii, etc.).

Pennysaver?
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Do the Native Hawaiians even know what they want?  And how they want to govern themselves?
Please go to YouTube and watch the US Department of Interior hearings when they came offering Aboriginal Hawaiians federal recognition.  Aside from Hawaiian sell-outs who depend on federal monetary handouts (e.g. OHA and similar organizations), it was loud and clear what Hawaiians wanted; the de-occupation and restoration of the Hawaiian nation state.

As for governance, the restored Hawaiian nation state would fall back on the Hawaiian Kingdom Constitution of 1865 for initial guidance and would need to immediately pass the necessary amendments relevant to life in the 21st century.



It seems there seems to be differing views even amongst Native Hawaiian groups.
There are two basic camps for those Hawaiians still living in Hawaii.

1. Hawaiians that do not want their nation back as long as they continue to get US imperial monetary handouts.
2. Hawaiians that want nothing to do with the US empire, its's debts, wars, etc. and to de-occupy Hawaii, ASAP.



Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that way every time the issue comes up.  There always seem to be disagreements between different groups.
See above.

Kuleana

I remember when that group of claimed royalty took over the OHA building.
OHA has a history of unwanted visitors on their property.

That particular group in-question was nothing more but a bunch of misguided souls who actively seek to establish the made-up Polynesian Kingdom of Atooi.  Their pathetic temporary occupation of parts of OHA's headquarters served no purpose but illustrate their idiocy and misunderstanding of Hawaiian Kingdom history.

hvybarrels

OHA has a history of unwanted visitors on their property.

That particular group in-question was nothing more but a bunch of misguided souls who actively seek to establish the made-up Polynesian Kingdom of Atooi.  Their pathetic temporary occupation of parts of OHA's headquarters served no purpose but illustrate their idiocy and misunderstanding of Hawaiian Kingdom history.

Reminds me of a certain Monty Python sketch

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.