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FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24 (Read 43431 times)

Brystont1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2024, 11:38:16 AM »
Called senator Kidani”s office spoke with the assistant for a little bit, left my contact info hopefully she calls me back.
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hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2024, 12:10:18 PM »
I'm still considering how spicy to get. Ideally it would be enough to raise an eyebrow or two but not enough to get on another watch list.
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Brystont1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2024, 12:23:31 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on March 04, 2024, 12:10:18 PM
I'm still considering how spicy to get. Ideally it would be enough to raise an eyebrow or two but not enough to get on another watch list.

I think you only get spicy if you have the support. Unfortunately we simply don’t have enough on our side. I have 2 guys at my work who are die hard gun guys, hate Hawaii government, yet when I ask them if they sent in testimony it’s “ahh no more time or I forgot” I think just being honest and showing them how it affects you personally is the best way to go about it.
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QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2024, 12:32:56 PM »
Like I mentioned in another thread, there are a lot of angry and discontented people in Hawaii.

But they nomo time to do something about it.  Socializing with friends, drinking, playing computer games and poking each other is more important.

edited to add:  Oh wait.  It was this thread.  Oh well.  Worth mentioning twice. :thumbsup:
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changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2024, 01:04:42 PM »
Quote from: AmbuBadger on March 04, 2024, 11:12:42 AM
Same for all those airsoft and paintball gun shops... even Nerf guns take pic rail attachments these days.

Epower submitted testimony.
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changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2024, 01:06:14 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on March 04, 2024, 12:10:18 PM
I'm still considering how spicy to get. Ideally it would be enough to raise an eyebrow or two but not enough to get on another watch list.

I've emailed a few senators and called them assholes or something like that. Which but me on their "list" as a staffer almost let it slip when I called and told him my name. "Your name sounds familiar, oh I saw it on the security lis........nevermind."
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Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2024, 01:10:58 PM »
I'd think it's a bad idea to be spicy at all. It's in gun owners' best interests to present themselves as stable, cool, and completely non-threatening.

We want to look like reasonable people with guns. If we look like angry or crazy people with guns then I imagine that does more harm than good.

It's not the sort of issue where I'd expect highly emotional sob stories to garner sympathy. If I got emotional and started crying about how my $4000 race rifle with $2500 worth of Aimpoint optics on it is going to be banned and how unfair that is after I worked so hard to assemble it or whatever... I don't think it'd come across nearly as well as somebody crying about losing their job, family home, livelihood, or traditional pastime.
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changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2024, 01:20:40 PM »
Quote from: Begle1 on March 04, 2024, 01:10:58 PM
I'd think it's a bad idea to be spicy at all. It's in gun owners' best interests to present themselves as stable, cool, and completely non-threatening.

We want to look like reasonable people with guns. If we look like angry or crazy people with guns then I imagine that does more harm than good.

It's not the sort of issue where I'd expect highly emotional sob stories to garner sympathy. If I got emotional and started crying about how my $4000 race rifle with $2500 worth of Aimpoint optics on it is going to be banned and how unfair that is after I worked so hard to assemble it or whatever... I don't think it'd come across nearly as well as somebody crying about losing their job, family home, livelihood, or traditional pastime.

There are certain times this applies. But when dealing with other hardcore anti 2A politicians, being nice won't get you anywhere.  But being "spicy" makes one feel better a little at least.  Think of it like venting.  At first I was nice and respectful, as 1 should be. But as the years passed, I saw the way they vote and how being nice got no where.

But in the end, people express their feelings how they want to and that's the beauty of the 1st amendment. 

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macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2024, 01:30:02 PM »
lol
people that have met me IRL know what i look like
mayor B told me " i feel threatened right now" when he is twice my size and had his whole cabinet standing behind him and 10-12 hpd officers in the room
all i was doing was speaking calmly and quietly, but i didn't back down when he was trying to bully me by getting in my face
i mean, this allegedly happened to someone who may or may not have been me...

Quote from: Begle1 on March 04, 2024, 01:10:58 PM
I'd think it's a bad idea to be spicy at all. It's in gun owners' best interests to present themselves as stable, cool, and completely non-threatening.

We want to look like reasonable people with guns. If we look like angry or crazy people with guns then I imagine that does more harm than good.

It's not the sort of issue where I'd expect highly emotional sob stories to garner sympathy. If I got emotional and started crying about how my $4000 race rifle with $2500 worth of Aimpoint optics on it is going to be banned and how unfair that is after I worked so hard to assemble it or whatever... I don't think it'd come across nearly as well as somebody crying about losing their job, family home, livelihood, or traditional pastime.
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hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2024, 01:47:29 PM »
I kept it chicken sandwich spicy but loaded it up with red pills. Email went through no problem to sens@capitol.hawaii.gov
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Kumachan

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2024, 02:26:29 PM »
emailed my Senator No Joy for me. I basically told her that if you vote yes and ths bill ends up becoming law then you just made thousands of people criminals.
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QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2024, 02:35:28 PM »
Quote from: macsak on March 04, 2024, 01:30:02 PM
lol
people that have met me IRL know what i look like
mayor B told me " i feel threatened right now" when he is twice my size and had his whole cabinet standing behind him and 10-12 hpd officers in the room
all i was doing was speaking calmly and quietly, but i didn't back down when he was trying to bully me by getting in my face
i mean, this allegedly happened to someone who may or may not have been me...

Mayor Blangiardi is only cool and calm when everyone agrees with him.  He becomes a bully when people stand up to him in disagreement and won't back down.

He is a big disappointment to me.  I voted for that plick.  I wish there were better choices but he seemed a click better than that other guy.
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hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2024, 02:48:28 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on March 04, 2024, 02:35:28 PM
Mayor Blangiardi is only cool and calm when everyone agrees with him.  He becomes a bully when people stand up to him in disagreement and won't back down.

He is a big disappointment to me.  I voted for that plick.  I wish there were better choices but he seemed a click better than that other guy.

I knew someone who worked for him at the TV station and told me what he was really like. Total bully.
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6716J

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2024, 03:33:05 PM »
Sent my email to those corksoaking a$$hats
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changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2024, 03:42:22 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on March 04, 2024, 02:35:28 PM
Mayor Blangiardi is only cool and calm when everyone agrees with him.  He becomes a bully when people stand up to him in disagreement and won't back down.

He is a big disappointment to me.  I voted for that plick.  I wish there were better choices but he seemed a click better than that other guy.

Lesser of 2 evils as a GOP mayor won't win. 

He's used to being surrounded by yes-men.  So he has trouble when someone is challenging him.
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drck1000

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2024, 04:57:21 PM »
Got response from Mike Gabbard noting that he voted no on SB3196.  As well as noting that bill will crossover and "You can still testify opposing the bill once a House committee is assigned." 

I emailed the group sen email, as well as the Sen for my district.  I don't expect a response from the Sen from my district, but would have been good. . .

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waterhome

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2024, 05:23:38 PM »
I sent another round of emails today.

Oregon just had success getting their aw ban and mag  overturned in court for the exact same reason as it turned many gun owners into criminals. Could we do the same thing here?



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ren

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2024, 07:34:10 PM »
Quote from: macsak on March 04, 2024, 01:30:02 PM
lol
people that have met me IRL know what i look like
mayor B told me " i feel threatened right now" when he is twice my size and had his whole cabinet standing behind him and 10-12 hpd officers in the room
all i was doing was speaking calmly and quietly, but i didn't back down when he was trying to bully me by getting in my face
i mean, this allegedly happened to someone who may or may not have been me...

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2024, 11:46:43 PM »
Quote from: macsak on March 04, 2024, 10:07:50 AM
thanks for proving i was right...

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Q

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2024, 02:32:50 AM »
Quote from: Begle1 on March 04, 2024, 01:10:58 PM
I'd think it's a bad idea to be spicy at all. It's in gun owners' best interests to present themselves as stable, cool, and completely non-threatening.

We want to look like reasonable people with guns. If we look like angry or crazy people with guns then I imagine that does more harm than good.

It's not the sort of issue where I'd expect highly emotional sob stories to garner sympathy. If I got emotional and started crying about how my $4000 race rifle with $2500 worth of Aimpoint optics on it is going to be banned and how unfair that is after I worked so hard to assemble it or whatever... I don't think it'd come across nearly as well as somebody crying about losing their job, family home, livelihood, or traditional pastime.

Imagine, if you will, a scenario in which the people in power don't care what people think because they know they won't get spicy or do anything to stop them.
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