But didn't have the courage to vote no.  Career comes first before doing the right thing.  He shouldn't feel bad though.  He's not alone.

He should have "strongly" voted aye with reservations.

Surprised that Joy used part of what I wrote to her so I guess she listened a little.

Senator Gabbard holds more credibility to me than the Senator that represents my district.

At least Senator Gabbard returned my email.

Some people are just naturally classy and some are naturally not.

Surprised that Joy used part of what I wrote to her so I guess she listened a little.

That's why doing something is important than just complaining and doing nothing.

Senator Gabbard holds more credibility to me than the Senator that represents my district.

At least Senator Gabbard returned my email.

Some people are just naturally classy and some are naturally not.

He responded to me as well and I'm not even in his district.  My own senator didn't respond, not that I expected a response. ..

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Surprised that Joy used part of what I wrote to her so I guess she listened a little.

That's awesome, what part did she use?

I feel like 8 noes is a lot. They just gave us the blueprint to kill this bill.

1. passing this bill will make law abiding citizens into criminals.
2. these are legitimate tools for hunting and agriculture.
3. we already have the best gun laws and low rates of gun stuff.

I wrote to Joy saying that if this bill becomes law, then it will make thousands of people into criminals

Maybe our legislators feel there isn't enough.

Maybe our legislators feel there isn't enough.

BINGO!!!

It's never enough, they are obsessed at moving goal post.

Probably off topic, but do you think it’s not a good time to buy any firearm right now? Since this bill is just like being forced passed even with all our testimonies to our senates.

8 noes is a lot
7 yes with reservations is a ton
there were only 17 yesses

yes with reservations means "i want to vote no, but this is passing anyways, so i need to toe the party line..."

this can be defeated in the house
we need to all not get discouraged and keep on fighting...

I feel like 8 noes is a lot. They just gave us the blueprint to kill this bill.

1. passing this bill will make law abiding citizens into criminals.
2. these are legitimate tools for hunting and agriculture.
3. we already have the best gun laws and low rates of gun stuff.

Probably off topic, but do you think it’s not a good time to buy any firearm right now? Since this bill is just like being forced passed even with all our testimonies to our senates.

i see it opposite. nows the time to buy up.

Probably off topic, but do you think it’s not a good time to buy any firearm right now? Since this bill is just like being forced passed even with all our testimonies to our senates.

If there is a grandfather clause, u must already own the item prior to july 8.

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Probably off topic, but do you think it’s not a good time to buy any firearm right now? Since this bill is just like being forced passed even with all our testimonies to our senates.

The way I see it,

1. Bill dies and you get to keep your cool shit

2. Bill passes with grandfather clause, still get to keep it and hopefully leave this shitty state later

3. Bill passes with no grandfather and you gotta modify it, well it's shitty but you still got it and can move away to a free state later

4. Bill passes and you gotta turn it in, if you can't send it to a buddy in a free state to hold it, screw it at least you HAD it

I see no reason to not get what you want now

8 noes is a lot
7 yes with reservations is a ton
there were only 17 yesses

yes with reservations means "i want to vote no, but this is passing anyways, so i need to toe the party line..."

this can be defeated in the house
we need to all not get discouraged and keep on fighting...

They wanted to bulldoze this through. We put some mud in their eye. Well done people!

Do you think the outcome would’ve been different if we called them traitorous pieces of shit?

You'll never know because you didn't try.

And there are ways to get spicy without using profanity or imparting all blame to them. I highly doubt the founders of America called King George a piece of shit in their petitions or documents related to Independence. Perhaps take inspiration from their verbage.

The way I see it,

1. Bill dies and you get to keep your cool shit

2. Bill passes with grandfather clause, still get to keep it and hopefully leave this shitty state later

3. Bill passes with no grandfather and you gotta modify it, well it's shitty but you still got it and can move away to a free state later

4. Bill passes and you gotta turn it in, if you can't send it to a buddy in a free state to hold it, screw it at least you HAD it

I see no reason to not get what you want now

Other options:


Bill passes and you have to turn in all your 30rd rifle mags to HPD with no compensation.

Bill passes and you have to spend $15 per mag to reduce them to 20rds via the Magpul -10rd adapter. Then epoxy the base so it's not "readily restorable".  I know a lot of guys with 100+mags. So that's $1500 at min they would have to spend.

Bill passes and you disassemble all magazines as you now have parts kits and hope lawsuits delete this bill/law.

Bill passes and you have to use other means to block the mags that might be cheaper than $15 per mag.  But it still cost you money and time.


 And since you will be a criminal with the stroke of Comrade Greens pen, you have to do all of this before he signs the bill into law.  And if he chooses not to, then you just wasted money.  Will HPD grant you amnesty for turning in all your mags?

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