Wow, I'd give you a CCW permit on the spot!  Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On another note, does anyone know SHOPO's stance on CCW for the private citizen?

That is a very extensive letter. If anyone should have a permit to carry, it should be you. Good luck in your endevor! 

Wow, I'd give you a CCW permit on the spot!  Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On another note, does anyone know SHOPO's stance on CCW for the private citizen?

I have not seen any official statement but I'd put money on them being very AGAINST carrying for private citizens.

Had some issues with Fingerprints and a passport photo so this morning I was able to get down there and get the permit request in.  Really annoying having to have exactly 19.25 cents to file for fingerprints, when they already did that previously. 

So now I can start my timer, which should be about two weeks (im hoping, though there is no limit set by the AG) and will let you guys knows what's up.

Thanks for the update.

I don't know why you should have had to take fingerprints. I don't recall there being any requirement for that in the statutes.

Anyway, I look forward to hearing the results.

Yeah the story they gave me was.  My firearms were transfers so the first fingerprints were "free", but they never ran them.. I was kind of like wtf??  So because they need to run my fingerprints, medical records and history again, and everything else (just as if I was registering a firearm) they charged me for the prints.  Which makes no sense to me, but as my friend told me -- just document it all for later.

Had some issues with Fingerprints and a passport photo so this morning I was able to get down there and get the permit request in.  Really annoying having to have exactly 19.25 cents to file for fingerprints, when they already did that previously. 

So now I can start my timer, which should be about two weeks (im hoping, though there is no limit set by the AG) and will let you guys knows what's up.

I am a little confused. Are the fingerprints (the second set, the one they charged you with) for the concealed carry permit, or a new gun purchase?

I would also be interested in the lawyer that agreed to represent you. HRA has a lawyer referral service and I am always looking for more attorneys that would be interested in getting these referrals. As well as discussing and coordinating any possible legal actions, especially those related to concealed carry. Feel free to PM me and we can hopefully discuss further. Thanks!

Haha, I was actually at the firearms dept. the day you submitted your letter, Funtimes. I remember the dialogue between you and the young guy behind the glass regarding fingerprinting. Good luck with your CCW permit 

The fingerprints are for the CCW. It was really strange, and confused me honestly =p. It all made no sense, but my only job is to comply and document at this time.

I already have my firearms -- they came with my person when i was transferred out here in the Navy.

Should have said hello stego!

The fingerprints are for the CCW. It was really strange, and confused me honestly =p. It all made no sense, but my only job is to comply and document at this time.

I already have my firearms -- they came with my person when i was transferred out here in the Navy.

Should have said hello stego!

Yep, sounds strange and as 2A said, there is no statutory requirements for fingerprinting for the CCW....in any event, thanks for the info and good luck. I think it is safe to say we'll all be anxious to see how things work out.

The fingerprints are for the CCW. It was really strange, and confused me honestly =p. It all made no sense, but my only job is to comply and document at this time.

I already have my firearms -- they came with my person when i was transferred out here in the Navy.

Should have said hello stego!

I would've said something had I known at the time you were a forum member. I was standing elbow to elbow with you in front of the window, haha. Guess we'll have to save formal introductions for Koko Head 

So based of a phone call I just had to the Firearms division, my permit has been denied.  I am still waiting on a letter, which was said to be put in the mail today, in order to 100% confirm this. Some research is being done now and some other dotting of I's and crossing of T's has to be done, but we still have pursuing legal action. We just have to see what the denial was for and what their letter contains.

I have to consider what portions of the law we are going to attack and what can benefit  not just myself but the whole.   Will give more info as soon as I have it.

Funtimes,
Thank you for standing up for or rights!  I hope you can prevail.

Funtimes,
Thank you for standing up for or rights!  I hope you can prevail.

Ditto that.

Excerpt from my letter -- received today, dated 16 September, 2010, " This is in response to your request for a license to carry a concealed firearm. We have carefully reviewed your application.  We do not believe that the reasons you provided constitute sufficient justification to issue you a permit. Therefore, your application has been denied."

Well good thing for me, is I was denied for cause! That will help out since there are already a few cases going up for that.

Awesome!

Sorry to hear about your denial Funtimes.  Is the letter signed by Police Chief Kealoha? 

It is

We do not believe that the reasons you provided constitute sufficient justification to issue you a permit. Therefore, your application has been denied."

If the reasons in your letter does not contain sufficient justification I don't know what will.    Funny how they don't give you the requirements that need to be satisfied. 

OK, so I'm a complete legal idiot, but would it possibly work to have 50, 100, 200+ people (preferably the majority being valid CCW holders in other states) all apply for a Hawaii CCW  (knowing that we will be denied) and THEN bring it to the NRA for possible financial assistance in a class action-esque lawsuit?

Regarding getting more assistance from fellow gun owners on the Legislative front, do we have anyone from 2AH who goes to the various local USPSA matches and has a booth with pamphlets, informational handouts, etc...?

- Alex