FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM (Read 5580 times)

Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2024, 12:04:06 PM »
The AG wrote pointing out the LEO flaw.




Where did the AG say this? I read all the testimony and didn't see it.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2024, 12:37:21 PM »

Where did the AG say this? I read all the testimony and didn't see it.

Hmmmm. My mistake, maybe it was for another bill.  There is so much stuff going on that I could be wrong.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2024, 12:39:09 PM »
I just watched most of the 3/15 hearing.  The prosecutors office states an example: Someone shoots a service dog (seeing eye dog), that's a misdemeanor. But now would be a felony.  IDK if I'm understanding this other part right, but the AG mentioned sensitive places which is a misdemeanor, and it will remain a misdemeanor and not bumped up to a felony???

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2024, 01:02:36 PM »
I just watched most of the 3/15 hearing.  The prosecutors office states an example: Someone shoots a service dog (seeing eye dog), that's a misdemeanor. But now would be a felony.  IDK if I'm understanding this other part right, but the AG mentioned sensitive places which is a misdemeanor, and it will remain a misdemeanor and not bumped up to a felony???

This upgraded does not affect anything in chapter 134 HRS, gun laws.  Which sensitive places are part of.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2024, 01:52:05 PM »
This upgraded does not affect anything in chapter 134 HRS, gun laws.  Which sensitive places are part of.

So it would still be a misdemenor, but you lose your gun rights in HI for 20 years.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2024, 01:05:39 PM »
Bill passed the committee. All aye votes, with Awa being excused. 

Next would be a senate floor vote.  They added in the effective date would be when Green signs the bill.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2024, 12:00:39 PM »
Bill passed the senate floor vote. Awa was the sole no vote.

Bill goes back to the house now cause amendments were made in the senate.

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2024, 12:14:30 PM »
There's a good chance this won't pass conference committee, or at least go with the reduced Senate version.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2024, 08:50:26 AM »
Now that it's too late to amend the bill, since it's going to Comrade Greens desk, there is a flaw in it.  If passed, it allows the open carrying of any deadly or dangerous weapon.  So, swords, medieval weapons, TDI Ka-Bar.  I"m sure they will fix this next year.

This is what happens when our anti 2a lawmakers rush to pass a bill due to a lawsuit because said law is unconstitutional. Who ever they also counseled is a moron (AG) because there's now way HI would intentionally allow this.  We saw this with the sensitive places bill and all the parts that contradict each other and constitutionality of it.

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2024, 03:04:19 PM »
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nalo_b

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2024, 07:15:58 PM »
Now that it's too late to amend the bill, since it's going to Comrade Greens desk, there is a flaw in it.  If passed, it allows the open carrying of any deadly or dangerous weapon.  So, swords, medieval weapons, TDI Ka-Bar.  I"m sure they will fix this next year.

This is what happens when our anti 2a lawmakers rush to pass a bill due to a lawsuit because said law is unconstitutional. Who ever they also counseled is a moron (AG) because there's now way HI would intentionally allow this.  We saw this with the sensitive places bill and all the parts that contradict each other and constitutionality of it.

So if he signs it open carry is legal? I'm sure he won't sign it if any deadly weapon is legal to open carry. Wouldn't this kill this bill for at least this year?

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2024, 07:35:05 PM »
if he doesn't sign it, it still becomes law
green would have to veto it...

So if he signs it open carry is legal? I'm sure he won't sign it if any deadly weapon is legal to open carry. Wouldn't this kill this bill for at least this year?

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION HB 2342 BEFORE 3/14 3:05PM
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2024, 10:18:31 PM »
if he doesn't sign it, it still becomes law
green would have to veto it...

No worries, brah. Can open carry now!




Good thing the senate shot down the legal weed bill today. It might have scared away some tourists!  :crazy:
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