Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting (Read 19889 times)

Kuleana

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2024, 08:54:07 AM »
He needs to get dual citizenship with the US and another country that he feels is better than the US.

Being a citizen of 2 places is better than having just one to bitch about.
What needs to happen is the de-occupation of Hawaii by the US empire and the restoration of the Hawaiian nation state especially with WWIII approaching as of a result of US imperialism.   :shaka:

ren

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2024, 08:56:40 AM »
On cue.
Deeds Not Words

macsak

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2024, 09:04:59 AM »
i guess you are no longer being paid per comma...

What needs to happen is the de-occupation of Hawaii by the US empire and the restoration of the Hawaiian nation state especially with WWIII approaching as of a result of US imperialism.   :shaka:

Kuleana

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2024, 09:13:46 AM »
I really get tired of your "US empire".
It is the Democrat empire, don't include the rest of us with those
reprobates.
 :grrr:
Well, unless America stops its illegal overthrows, color revolutions, and proxy wars; close-down its military garrisons all over the planet; ends the weaponization of its toilet paper currency; ceases to place sanctions on any nation that does not submit to its bidding; ends the illegal occupation of Hawaii; and etc., America has been and is an empire.

Everyone should love their nation; however, if you are aware of such activities and do not at least speak out against them, which everyone outside of the US empire obviously despises, you indirectly assent to US imperialism.

macsak

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2024, 09:17:19 AM »
whoa
5 semi-colons and 5 commas...

Well, unless America stops its illegal overthrows, color revolutions, and proxy wars; close-down its military garrisons all over the planet; ends the weaponization of its toilet paper currency; ceases to place sanctions on any nation that does not submit to its bidding; ends the illegal occupation of Hawaii; and etc., America has been and is an empire.

Everyone should love their nation; however, if you are aware of such activities and do not at least speak out against them, which everyone outside of the US empire obviously despises, you indirectly assent to US imperialism.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2024, 11:35:20 AM »
Well, unless America stops its illegal overthrows, color revolutions, and proxy wars; close-down its military garrisons all over the planet; ends the weaponization of its toilet paper currency; ceases to place sanctions on any nation that does not submit to its bidding; ends the illegal occupation of Hawaii; and etc., America has been and is an empire.

Everyone should love their nation; however, if you are aware of such activities and do not at least speak out against them, which everyone outside of the US empire obviously despises, you indirectly assent to US imperialism.

You should be happy then that Biden is giving Hamas more support than he is Israel, proportionally speaking.

Every dollar we spend in "aid' is a dollar Hamas now has to spend on making war with Israel.

And since Iran is the #1 sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world, you can add the billion$$$ the US has sent them under Obama and Biden to that tally.

Do your happy dance ....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2024, 12:46:28 PM »
You should be happy then that Biden is giving Hamas more support than he is Israel, proportionally speaking.
Biden is only doing this to save his election hopes by courting the Muslim vote this November.

He is no less any other American puppet leader that bows to the Israeli lobby that funds them.



Every dollar we spend in "aid' is a dollar Hamas now has to spend on making war with Israel.
Are you sure they are receiving cash or purely tangible humanitarian aid?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #107 on: May 10, 2024, 01:51:38 PM »
Biden is only doing this to save his election hopes by courting the Muslim vote this November.

He is no less any other American puppet leader that bows to the Israeli lobby that funds them.


Are you sure they are receiving cash or purely tangible humanitarian aid?

So, because Biden is doing something you should like just for election points, you now don't like it?

I'm confused.  You never answered the question.  Is it even possible for you to maintain a focused train of thought without deflecting and dragging us through a bunch of irrelevant BS?

If Trump goes to a homeless shelter and buys everyone there a house, would you give him props, or whine that he's doing it for the election?

Ever hear the phrase, Never look a gift horse in the mouth?  It means be grateful for the gift, and don't look for things to bitch about.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2024, 01:58:47 PM »
i fail to see how he can be doing things to court the muslim vote and bow to the israeli lobby at the same time...

Biden is only doing this to save his election hopes by courting the Muslim vote this November.

He is no less any other American puppet leader that bows to the Israeli lobby that funds them.


Are you sure they are receiving cash or purely tangible humanitarian aid?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2024, 02:07:31 PM »
i fail to see how he can be doing things to court the muslim vote and bow to the israeli lobby at the same time...

i fail to see how that would work, but nevertheless, it seems that's what the WH is attempting to do.

Show support for Israel and Hamas/Palestinians while hoping voters don't figure out you're playing both sides.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #110 on: May 10, 2024, 03:36:37 PM »
i fail to see how he can be doing things to court the muslim vote and bow to the israeli lobby at the same time...

Never underestimate the power of elitist stupidity
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

macsak

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2024, 03:46:02 PM »
#veryastute

Never underestimate the power of elitist stupidity

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2024, 06:10:25 PM »
You can't play both sides against the middle
when one side wants to exterminate the other.

https://youtube.com/shorts/JPNI0XZLpmY
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2024, 07:06:51 PM »
You can't play both sides against the middle
when one side wants to exterminate the other.

https://youtube.com/shorts/JPNI0XZLpmY

Of course you can. It’s called colonialism. Divide et impera. If you’re a cynical psychopath it’s a great way to make a buttload of money.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2024, 07:25:27 PM »
Of course you can. It’s called colonialism. Divide et impera. If you’re a cynical psychopath it’s a great way to make a buttload of money.

I don't think you understand that phrase.

The phrase "divide and conquer" applies to a single unified people or government, not two entities like Israel and Hamas each under separate rule.

Maybe you can explain how you would "divide" Israel and Gaza/Palestine to make them both more susceptible to being conquered or ruled.  I don't think two nations at war can be any more divided, can they?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #115 on: May 11, 2024, 12:59:15 AM »
I don't think you understand that phrase.

The phrase "divide and conquer" applies to a single unified people or government, not two entities like Israel and Hamas each under separate rule.

Maybe you can explain how you would "divide" Israel and Gaza/Palestine to make them both more susceptible to being conquered or ruled.  I don't think two nations at war can be any more divided, can they?

This is a chess game, no checkers.

Plenty of expendable pawns on both sides
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2024, 08:29:50 AM »
This is a chess game, no checkers.

Plenty of expendable pawns on both sides

So, a vague analogy is your reply?

You can't explain it, can you?.

There's no coherence to your comments.  Babbling for the fun of it.

 :crazy:   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #117 on: May 11, 2024, 08:55:12 AM »
Sometimes you have to stop and remember the nuggets of common sense wisdom that ought to be guiding our decisions:

You can fool all the people some of the time
and some of the people all the time,
but you cannot fool all the people all time.


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #118 on: May 11, 2024, 09:58:09 AM »
So, because Biden is doing something you should like just for election points, you now don't like it?
Anything that helps the Palestinian noncombatants in Gaza is always welcomed, but I would not have any illusion of the sincerity of the gesture.



I'm confused.  You never answered the question.  Is it even possible for you to maintain a focused train of thought without deflecting and dragging us through a bunch of irrelevant BS?
I'm confused.  What question were you asking?



If Trump goes to a homeless shelter and buys everyone there a house, would you give him props, or whine that he's doing it for the election?
Once again, kudos to Trump for the act of kindness; however, I would not give him or any other politician a special award for doing so.



Ever hear the phrase, Never look a gift horse in the mouth?  It means be grateful for the gift, and don't look for things to bitch about.
By your logic, the US empire not just does the opposite, but blows up gas pipelines to maintain its control over its EU vassal states.

Russia gives the gift of cheap natural gas to the EU promoting economic prosperity, the US empire btiches about this arrangement and then proceeds to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline as a lesson to the EU reminding them who's their daddy.

macsak

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2024, 11:01:08 AM »
please prove the US blew up the pipeline
and don't post a video of someone speculating it can be done and call it a "smoking gun"...

 
Anything that helps the Palestinian noncombatants in Gaza is always welcomed, but I would not have any illusion of the sincerity of the gesture.


I'm confused.  What question were you asking?


Once again, kudos to Trump for the act of kindness; however, I would not give him or any other politician a special award for doing so.


By your logic, the US empire not just does the opposite, but blows up gas pipelines to maintain its control over its EU vassal states.

Russia gives the gift of cheap natural gas to the EU promoting economic prosperity, the US empire btiches about this arrangement and then proceeds to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline as a lesson to the EU reminding them who's their daddy.