We're getting close. Once the Overton window shifts on this all hell is going to break loose.

What bothers me is that for some reason Trump refuses to admit that this was the largest medical disaster in history under his watch.

We're getting close. Once the Overton window shifts on this all hell is going to break loose.

What bothers me is that for some reason Trump refuses to admit that this was the largest medical disaster in history under his watch.

If he did admit it, then what?  Another trial?  Barred from office?  Jail time?  Up against a wall?

What if he admits it was his responsibility.  Does that change anything?  Will it stop it from happening again?

Curious why you want an admission of something that as far as I can tell will have no positive result in any way.

Does a mea culpa have any effect on reality?  Or is it just a way to calm others' anger? 

I guess it comes down to whether or not our own emotions are something we should punish someone else for if they don't try to make us feel better.

"I admit I messed up.  My bad."  Would you feel better, or will that still not be enough for you?

Fredo has lost most of his credibility. I'm not factoring in that he helped his brother bury the sexual harassment story, I understand why he did that.  But all the other lies he read on air.

Trump knows by now that the shots that he is still claiming credit for are deadly. When he mentions them at rallies he gets booed.

This raises the question: why persist? Why not just apologize and state the obvious?

Is he waiting for better timing? Is it all about ego? Is he worried that the deep state will see that as a bridge too far and give the command to execute him like JFK?

If it's the last case then it's a disturbing sign for his presidency, because it begs the question what else will he fold on next?

Trump knows by now that the shots that he is still claiming credit for are deadly. When he mentions them at rallies he gets booed.

This raises the question: why persist? Why not just apologize and state the obvious?

Is he waiting for better timing? Is it all about ego? Is he worried that the deep state will see that as a bridge too far and give the command to execute him like JFK?

If it's the last case then it's a disturbing sign for his presidency, because it begs the question what else will he fold on next?

I never watched his rallies about what he said.  But I do think the shots helped those who are high risk.  As in, fat, old, etc...As the risk of adverse reactions outweighed what if they caught covid. 

For everyone else, not in high risk, no need get the shot.

But on the other note, Trump has shown that he knows exactly what he's doing.  Maybe he's talking about it to get feed back from the crowd?  And to show people this feedback. So if/when #2 begins, people will remember what happened with Covid.

But on the other note, Trump has shown that he knows exactly what he's doing.  Maybe he's talking about it to get feed back from the crowd?  And to show people this feedback. So if/when #2 begins, people will remember what happened with Covid.

I'm probably still voting for him again, especially if he names Tulsi as VP, but because of this I don't expect a messiah. In fact I expect to be disappointed, but hopefully in a less Stalinistic way than the Biden administration.

I never watched his rallies about what he said.  But I do think the shots helped those who are high risk.  As in, fat, old, etc...As the risk of adverse reactions outweighed what if they caught covid. 

For everyone else, not in high risk, no need get the shot.

But on the other note, Trump has shown that he knows exactly what he's doing.  Maybe he's talking about it to get feed back from the crowd?  And to show people this feedback. So if/when #2 begins, people will remember what happened with Covid.

Lots of medications are given based on benefits outweighing the risks.  Some of the risks are downright deadly.  But none of them out there was ever forced down the throats of the public like the covid shots were.

Social engineering for sure.  The studies has been made, conclusions drawn, and future plans implemented.

Garan Ball Barans.

The vaccines were not without risk.  Anyone seeing the data understood that, which is why the safety and efficacy were such divisive topics -- to the point where anyone questioning the establishment viewpoint was censored on most platforms.

The one big benefit the vaccine offered was it got the emergency orders lifted, businesses to reopen and schools to start using the classrooms again.  The vaccine helped end the lockdowns, even after the reports that vaccinated people were still contracting it.

In a big picture analysis, I think Trump has a right to point to the vaccine development as an accomplishment.  We were going to have a vaccine at some point no matter what.  Trump's Operation Warp Speed enabled the developers to roll it out faster than any other vaccine is US history.  That in turn halted the lockdowns sooner. 

So, regardless of the individual side effects, the measurable impact of Warp Speed on the economy and workers needing to earn a paycheck was an amazing feat.

Some have the opinion that the lockdowns did more harm to the nation and individuals, in particular students, than the virus did.  Whether or not the individual costs of the vaccine exceed the benefits to the nation as a whole is up for debate and may only be known decades from now.

I'm probably still voting for him again, especially if he names Tulsi as VP, but because of this I don't expect a messiah. In fact I expect to be disappointed, but hopefully in a less Stalinistic way than the Biden administration.

How low is your disappointment bar?  I mean, he can't do worst than Brandon right?

Lots of medications are given based on benefits outweighing the risks.  Some of the risks are downright deadly.  But none of them out there was ever forced down the throats of the public like the covid shots were.

Social engineering for sure.  The studies has been made, conclusions drawn, and future plans implemented.

Garan Ball Barans.

That's where the comrades would disagree.  Like comrade Rick would say "I'm not forcing you to get the vaxx, you just cannot go to the gym, dine in at a restaurant, work for the city, etc..You are free to stay home".

The vaccines were not without risk.  Anyone seeing the data understood that, which is why the safety and efficacy were such divisive topics -- to the point where anyone questioning the establishment viewpoint was censored on most platforms.

The one big benefit the vaccine offered was it got the emergency orders lifted, businesses to reopen and schools to start using the classrooms again.  The vaccine helped end the lockdowns, even after the reports that vaccinated people were still contracting it.

In a big picture analysis, I think Trump has a right to point to the vaccine development as an accomplishment.  We were going to have a vaccine at some point no matter what.  Trump's Operation Warp Speed enabled the developers to roll it out faster than any other vaccine is US history.  That in turn halted the lockdowns sooner. 

So, regardless of the individual side effects, the measurable impact of Warp Speed on the economy and workers needing to earn a paycheck was an amazing feat.

Some have the opinion that the lockdowns did more harm to the nation and individuals, in particular students, than the virus did.  Whether or not the individual costs of the vaccine exceed the benefits to the nation as a whole is up for debate and may only be known decades from now.

That is a good point because Trump never forced anyone to take it.  Each state/county did so.  And some federal departments like the military.