online map of gun owners (Read 14757 times)

ren

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Bunker

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2012, 08:38:49 AM »
I really hate the fact that law abiding citizens have their info publicly accessible. Now days someone can just google someone's name and find out so much info and exactly where they live. It's sickening. I do agree that criminal offenders info should be public. It's nice to know if you have a convicted child molester, etc living in your area, but to publicize where the registered guns of law abiding citizens are, is an invitation for criminals.

Jl808

online map of gun owners
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 09:18:47 AM »
Hmmm... It seems they treat this as though gun owners were some kind of sex offender.

At least they should give the option to opt out kind of like the white pages.
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xer 21

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 09:27:34 AM »
Hmmm... It seems they treat this as though gun owners were some kind of sex offender.

At least they should give the option to opt out kind of like the white pages.
i'd want someoone to know i have a gun.  maybe if someone's looking for a house to rip off, he'll avoid the dots :D

Bunker

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 09:49:15 AM »
i'd want someoone to know i have a gun.  maybe if someone's looking for a house to rip off, he'll avoid the dots :D

Personally I don't want the criminal element having that insight. Criminals don't work and have an abundance of time to plan out burgularies and other criminal acts, and can stake out any home to determine exactly when home owners work, their schedules, routines, and so forth. They are generally cowards and plan break-ins when the home owners are not present. After all, criminals obtain firearms illegally and it would be extremely helpful for them to know exactly where to go to obtain them. jMHO

ren

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 10:03:45 AM »
Personally I don't want the criminal element having that insight. Criminals don't work and have an abundance of time to plan out burgularies and other criminal acts, and can stake out any home to determine exactly when home owners work, their schedules, routines, and so forth. They are generally cowards and plan break-ins when the home owners are not present. After all, criminals obtain firearms illegally and it would be extremely helpful for them to know exactly where to go to obtain them. jMHO

not if you have one of these systems


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Bunker

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 10:11:03 AM »
not if you have one of these systems




Yah and a couple claymore mines strategically placed would be nice. :D

HiCarry

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 10:53:22 AM »
anybody notice that Newtown didn't have any permit holders listed??

new guy

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2012, 01:02:47 PM »
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Jl808

online map of gun owners
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 01:16:08 PM »
i'd want someoone to know i have a gun.  maybe if someone's looking for a house to rip off, he'll avoid the dots :D

It's better to have the element of surprise.
I think, therefore I am armed.
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Colt808

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2012, 02:04:31 PM »
legal but stupid
http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?nclick_check=1
Legal only because (unlike here) gun ownership is public information...definitely stupid.

i'd want someoone to know i have a gun.  maybe if someone's looking for a house to rip off, he'll avoid the dots :D
No you don't. Take a moment and think...

It's giving criminals looking for firearms a shopping list. Okay, so you're armed...but don't discount, as JI808 mentioned, "the element of surprise". I believe a criminal knowing you've got guns is not a deterrence, but (in most cases) only increases the likelihood of a violent encounter if they come to take it.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


And I still see stupid people.

xer 21

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2012, 02:07:10 PM »
then we'll agree to disagree.  in my opinion, if i was hitting a house, i would stay away from any potentially armed person.

Colt808

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2012, 02:52:39 PM »
then we'll agree to disagree.  in my opinion, if i was hitting a house, i would stay away from any potentially armed person.
Neither of us think like criminals, but I've dealt with enough of them to have a pretty good idea of the mindset...They don't care if someone is potentially armed, and they don't always act using logic and reason. Like a rat to cheese (or fat kid to cake), they only see the potential reward rather than be concerned by consequence. As an example, just look at the 50,000+ police officers assaulted every year. Officers are clearly armed and it doesn't deter a criminal from "going for it" for whatever reason.

If every confrontation were foreseen and lead to a head on/face-to-face fight, I'd definitely agree or at least say knowledge of firearm ownership wouldn't make a difference. But that's less likely when the information is there for all to see. That just gives a criminal the opportunity to plan a ambush/blitz attack or to case your home and wait to burglarize it.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


And I still see stupid people.

ren

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 01:47:42 PM »
Deeds Not Words

Bunker

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2012, 02:05:44 PM »
Quote from: Chris Fountain
Targeting gun owners by publishing their home addresses is pretty dangerous too, Brett – either thieves will focus on them and put the guns into circulation on the street or they’ll hit the neighbors who are not identified as gun owners, figuring they’re a safer target but either way, it’s dangerously risky for this publisher to collect that information and make it accessible with just one click. Dangerous to the neighbors, if the thieves go that way, dangerous to the country, if the guns are stolen and shopped around – like a lie, a stolen gun can get 1/2 way around the world before the owner can put his shoes on.
So I’m comfortable with outing the people involved with this act.

I'm is agreement with his response...dangerous either way.

Izanagi

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2012, 09:59:33 PM »
i'd want someoone to know i have a gun.  maybe if someone's looking for a house to rip off, he'll avoid the dots :D

what about for those of us that live alone?  They could stake out our place, see when we leave for work and then break in and steal everything we got cause they know we're going to be gone all day.

Cougar8045

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2012, 10:15:02 PM »
what about for those of us that live alone?  They could stake out our place, see when we leave for work and then break in and steal everything we got cause they know we're going to be gone all day.
Worse yet, what about the guys who leave a gunshy wife and a couple of young kids at home when they leave for work in the morning? 

That Sauce for the Goose article was right on the money.  Those people deserve every piece of hate mail and late night phone call that comes from it.
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

Mr. Farknocker

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2012, 08:46:08 AM »
Someone should publish online the name, residential address and telephone number of the journalist and the officers and directors of the corporation responsible for publishing the online map. It's perfectly legal.

macsak

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2012, 09:16:25 AM »
click the link in post #13 above

Someone should publish online the name, residential address and telephone number of the journalist and the officers and directors of the corporation responsible for publishing the online map. It's perfectly legal.

Mr. Farknocker

Re: online map of gun owners
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2012, 11:04:26 AM »
click the link in post #13 above

Wow! I'm brilliant!


.....not really...