How to sell firearm to another person? (Read 12223 times)

sEEKretSAUCE808

How to sell firearm to another person?
« on: December 25, 2012, 06:23:18 PM »
What's the procedure for selling a rifle to another person, and the procedure for selling a handgun. What information in necessary for buyer to register the firearm?

fstbckgt

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2012, 06:54:32 PM »
Good stuff HERE  :shaka:

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Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2012, 06:55:51 PM »
It all depends. If you know the guy and trust him to register it.

Long Guns

Make a copy of his valid long gun permit to aquire. Let him scratch out all info he doesnt want you to know.
You can also make a copy of his ID.
Attach that to your permit.
You can also make a bill of sale
You can call HPD and see if he transferred it. Make sure you wait the few days
I have most guys call me when they done. Then i call HPD

HPD does not care about your valid permits. They say it is your resposibility to keep records.
If the gun is ever used in a crime. They do a reverse trace starting with the manufacturer.

If you dont trust the guy. Meet him at hpd and do the transfer.
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Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2012, 07:00:39 PM »
Handguns

This can be tricky

I normally give the guy $100 deposit and make a copy of his permit
And make a reciept. Apply for the permit. And wait.
Pay him the balance when i get the gun.
It is hard for them to fool you because you will not be issued the permit if the serial is not in the system

Or you could have him meet you at HPD for the balance and transfer
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Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2012, 07:09:20 PM »
Thanks SpeedTek, I really didn't want to type all of that.

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Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2012, 07:12:39 PM »
I have to repeat this everyday. Didnt have to do it today till now. So its all good.
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Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2012, 08:38:11 PM »
Yups thanks SpeedTek  :shaka:

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Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2012, 08:43:20 PM »
You are proving to be a most useful mammal Dex!
God, guns, and guts made America. Let's keep all three!

Dolomite

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 04:23:24 PM »
What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?

Anyone got any unregistered 10/22 for sale? I don't want to wait in that line for a 10/22...

bass monkey

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 04:27:23 PM »
What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?

Anyone got any unregistered 10/22 for sale? I don't want to wait in that line for a 10/22...


You mean really old guns and black powder guns?

Dolomite

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 04:31:13 PM »
Sorry not that old, guns purchased between 1980 - 1994...

crazy cat

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 05:02:01 PM »
Sorry not that old, guns purchased between 1980 - 1994...

Grandfathered to the original purchaser, but any transfers after 1994 have to be registered.

What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?

Yes.  Not doing so is a major felony.

Dolomite

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 05:03:31 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up....

Kingkeoni

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 05:29:31 PM »
What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?

Anyone got any unregistered 10/22 for sale? I don't want to wait in that line for a 10/22...

The rifle would still be transferred to you and would have to be registered.

The only way you could have an "unregistered" rifle would be to have taken possession prior to 1994.
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xer 21

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 06:15:25 PM »
The rifle would still be transferred to you and would have to be registered.

The only way you could have an "unregistered" rifle would be to have taken possession prior to 1994.
of course, the big question is, how would they know?

im just curious, because my father has an unregistered rifle he got in the 70's. 

Bunker

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2012, 07:02:32 PM »
of course, the big question is, how would they know?

im just curious, because my father has an unregistered rifle he got in the 70's.

§134-3 Registration, Mandatory, Exceptions. (a) Every person arriving in the State who brings or by any other manner causes to be brought into the State a firearm of any description, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, shall register the firearm within three days after arrival of the person or of the firearm, whichever arrives later.

§134-3 ( d)  Registration shall not be required for:

(1)  Any device that is designed to fire loose black powder or that is a firearm manufactured before 1899;

(2)  Any device not designed to fire or made incapable of being readily restored to a firing condition; or

(3)  All unserviceable firearms and destructive devices registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms of the United States Department of Justice pursuant to Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations.

Registration is not mandatory for rifles and shotguns acquired in the state of Hawaiʻi prior to July, 1994.  However, one permit per rifle or shotgun was required for acquisitions between 1981 and July, 1994.

So if your father has it already in Hawaii (local resident), it should be good, but if he lives in another state and wants to bring it to Hawaii, he would need to register it.

xer 21

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:38 PM »
yeah, he's local.

Kingkeoni

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2012, 04:56:17 AM »
of course, the big question is, how would they know?

im just curious, because my father has an unregistered rifle he got in the 70's.

Because you're too young to have taken possession of the rifle before that time.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

xer 21

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2012, 03:59:02 PM »
Because you're too young to have taken possession of the rifle before that time.
i am, i was just wondering if he, say, sold it to one of his friends.  technically, they wouldnt really know, right?

we're not planning on getting rid of it or anything, i was just curious.

Bunker

Re: How to sell firearm to another person?
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 06:16:03 PM »
i am, i was just wondering if he, say, sold it to one of his friends.  technically, they wouldnt really know, right?

we're not planning on getting rid of it or anything, i was just curious.

Hypothetically I don't see how anyone would know if the person's age adds up that they could have acquired it legally in that timeframe. Think about this....if say, someone's relative or parent gave them a legal unregistered firearm before the requirement to register it, or an inheritance, say pre 1980, and that receiving individual was of legal age to own a firearm, then they should be able to keep it unregistered. However, the verbiage in these proposed bans calls for all unregistered firearms to be registered. If that actually happens, it becomes a moot point and even your father would have to register it, unless of course he really never had an unregistered rifle and we are just talking hypothetically. I think if that scenario ever plays out, many people may take their chances and claim they don't process any unregistered rifles or cough up a token one or two just to give the appearance of compliance.