Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally (Read 32077 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #80 on: July 17, 2024, 04:13:50 PM »
Or someone watching Crocodile Dundee and expect that level of accuracy to be easy. . .

Totally in the whelm (sic) of possibility. . .

But not in the wheely wheel world.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #81 on: July 18, 2024, 09:44:33 AM »
Sometimes the only response to a nonsensical comment is, "Well, bless your heart."
Well, make sure you tell that to everyone who offers that the Trump shooting was an "inside job" and not the official narrative that you believe.

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2024, 10:17:38 AM »
Your theory of a intentional graze to the ear isn't in the whelm of possibility, esp with his head movements. 

with all the hate on Trump, that would mean only 2 people would know about this, Trump and the shooter.  Any more than that and they run the risk of someone narcing, esp with the weaponized DOJ going after Trumps people.
My view is based on a premise that the Power Okole or whatever anyone wants to call them does not want Trump or Kennedy for that matter in the Oval Office for fear they will deviate from the geopolitical goals of the US empire.  The Power Okole can't assassinate Trump before the election for fear of potential Civil War nor Kennedy since that would bring back the ghosts of his assassinated predecessors further exposing their existence to the public.  The only thing that they can do prior to the November elections is provide a final warning to both of Trump as well as Kennedy to stay in-line or risk potential death of themselves or even their loved ones.

In regard to the actual events on the Trump shooting, I theorize that there were two shooters, the convenient patsy and the contracted real shooter.  In the chaos that followed, the patsy may or may have not been allowed to fire the actual weapon, while the real shooter presumedly in a different location was to provide the warning and/or the death shot (though I don't believe the Power Okole wanted Trump dead).  The media currently is reporting that Trump miraculously evaded the potential kill shot by turning his head at the right moment or the "shooter" just flat out missing his target.  The problem with this is the fact if the Power Okole wanted Trump dead, he would be shot dead.

To believe that the "identified" 20-year-old patsy was able to prepare and get himself in the right position to shoot Trump by himself without any professional assistance is possible, but very difficult to accept given the motives of Power Okole as publicly vocalized by their political minions that clearly want Trump out-of-the-picture.

drck1000

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2024, 10:27:16 AM »
My view is based on a premise that the Power Okole or whatever anyone wants to call them does not want Trump or Kennedy for that matter in the Oval Office for fear they will deviate from the geopolitical goals of the US empire.  The Power Okole can't assassinate Trump before the election for fear of potential Civil War nor Kennedy since that would bring back the ghosts of his assassinated predecessors further exposing their existence to the public.  The only thing that they can do prior to the November elections is provide a final warning to both of Trump as well as Kennedy to stay in-line or risk potential death of themselves or even their loved ones.

In regard to the actual events on the Trump shooting, I theorize that there were two shooters, the convenient patsy and the contracted real shooter.  In the chaos that followed, the patsy may or may have not been allowed to fire the actual weapon, while the real shooter presumedly in a different location was to provide the warning and/or the death shot (though I don't believe the Power Okole wanted Trump dead).  The media currently is reporting that Trump miraculously evaded the potential kill shot by turning his head at the right moment or the "shooter" just flat out missing his target.  The problem with this is the fact if the Power Okole wanted Trump dead, he would be shot dead.

To believe that the "identified" 20-year-old patsy was able to prepare and get himself in the right position to shoot Trump by himself without any professional assistance is possible, but very difficult to accept given the motives of Power Okole as publicly vocalized by their political minions that clearly want Trump out-of-the-picture.
The part in bold seems to be your significant position or premise, correct?  So what's next? 

Your theory is interesting for sure.  Blend of Crocodile Dundee, Shooter, and House of Cards. . .

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #84 on: July 18, 2024, 10:42:32 AM »
My view is based on a premise that the Power Okole or whatever anyone wants to call them does not want Trump or Kennedy for that matter in the Oval Office for fear they will deviate from the geopolitical goals of the US empire.  The Power Okole can't assassinate Trump before the election for fear of potential Civil War nor Kennedy since that would bring back the ghosts of his assassinated predecessors further exposing their existence to the public.  The only thing that they can do prior to the November elections is provide a final warning to both of Trump as well as Kennedy to stay in-line or risk potential death of themselves or even their loved ones.

In regard to the actual events on the Trump shooting, I theorize that there were two shooters, the convenient patsy and the contracted real shooter.  In the chaos that followed, the patsy may or may have not been allowed to fire the actual weapon, while the real shooter presumedly in a different location was to provide the warning and/or the death shot (though I don't believe the Power Okole wanted Trump dead).  The media currently is reporting that Trump miraculously evaded the potential kill shot by turning his head at the right moment or the "shooter" just flat out missing his target.  The problem with this is the fact if the Power Okole wanted Trump dead, he would be shot dead.

To believe that the "identified" 20-year-old patsy was able to prepare and get himself in the right position to shoot Trump by himself without any professional assistance is possible, but very difficult to accept given the motives of Power Okole as publicly vocalized by their political minions that clearly want Trump out-of-the-picture.

Read my other post on the why this happened.  They allowed the ID'd 20 year old to take the shot. But he failed.  A "warning shot" to the ear is too high risk.  Too many unknown variables. Luck was on Trumps side.

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2024, 10:47:03 AM »
so you still moving goalposts from "I truly believe"?
got it...

In regard to the actual events on the Trump shooting, I theorize that there were two shooters, the convenient patsy and the contracted real shooter.  In the chaos that followed, the patsy may or may have not been allowed to fire the actual weapon, while the real shooter presumedly in a different location was to provide the warning and/or the death shot (though I don't believe the Power Okole wanted Trump dead).  The media currently is reporting that Trump miraculously evaded the potential kill shot by turning his head at the right moment or the "shooter" just flat out missing his target.  The problem with this is the fact if the Power Okole wanted Trump dead, he would be shot dead.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2024, 11:58:26 AM »
Well, make sure you tell that to everyone who offers that the Trump shooting was an "inside job" and not the official narrative that you believe.

Why are you trying to control my thoughts and comments?

Do you not have enough in your own life to worry about?

I'm thinking the English translation of "Kuleana" has to be "Karen."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #87 on: July 18, 2024, 01:11:32 PM »
I want to apply for Secret Service.

I sometimes have a hard time holstering my gun also. :D

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #88 on: July 18, 2024, 10:40:58 PM »
My view is based on a premise that the Power Okole or whatever anyone wants to call them does not want Trump or Kennedy for that matter in the Oval Office for fear they will deviate from the geopolitical goals of the US empire.  The Power Okole can't assassinate Trump before the election for fear of potential Civil War nor Kennedy since that would bring back the ghosts of his assassinated predecessors further exposing their existence to the public.  The only thing that they can do prior to the November elections is provide a final warning to both of Trump as well as Kennedy to stay in-line or risk potential death of themselves or even their loved ones.

In regard to the actual events on the Trump shooting, I theorize that there were two shooters, the convenient patsy and the contracted real shooter.  In the chaos that followed, the patsy may or may have not been allowed to fire the actual weapon, while the real shooter presumedly in a different location was to provide the warning and/or the death shot (though I don't believe the Power Okole wanted Trump dead).  The media currently is reporting that Trump miraculously evaded the potential kill shot by turning his head at the right moment or the "shooter" just flat out missing his target.  The problem with this is the fact if the Power Okole wanted Trump dead, he would be shot dead.

To believe that the "identified" 20-year-old patsy was able to prepare and get himself in the right position to shoot Trump by himself without any professional assistance is possible, but very difficult to accept given the motives of Power Okole as publicly vocalized by their political minions that clearly want Trump out-of-the-picture.
What a surprise!   :shake:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2024, 01:23:09 AM »
What a surprise!   :shake:

Cool story, bro.

So, you believe every person that gave an interview was able to see the top of the roof the shooter was killed on, regardless of their proximity to the building?

Of course they will think the shot had to have come from the  tower.  it's inconceivable a shooter could have been as close as the shooter was when he fired.

Maybe the tower sniper shot the patsy on the roof, just in case the secret service missed?  That theory would play much better in your multi-shooter fantasy, don't you think?  Because the Jack Ruby scenario requires a second sacrificial lamb, and the Epstein suicide route is just too recent.

i hope the people feeding your delusion appreciate the clicks and views you're driving their way.

Keep up the good work!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2024, 01:53:19 AM »
For fun, I went on Google Earth to check the trajectory a bullet would have taken from the rooftop where the lone shooter was killed, and from the water tower where a fictitious second shooter would have been.

Here's the screen grab:



Given the position of Trump's stage with his back to the three buildings, he would have been facing roughly West with his right side facing roughly North toward the roof top and water tower.


Here's where Trump's head was when he was struck:




Given the location and direction the stage was, and the fact his head was less than 90 degrees to the right in relation to the podium (podium was was parallel to the front edge of the stage), it's much more likely the shot came from Trump's right-front direction than from right-rear.  His head would have had to be looking behind him for the bullet to graze past his skull if coming from the tower.

It's just not likely that a shot from the tower would have missed Trump's skull so close that it pierced his ear and missed entering his skull -- unless you believe it bounced off his thick skull without leaving a mark.

Just a rough analysis on my  part, but it's better than a video (AI enhanced?) showing what might have been Sasquatch climbing a water tower to get a glimpse of President Trump -- the man ... the myth ... the legend!

 :geekdanc: :thumbsup:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2024, 07:40:17 AM »
Im just amazed that some people can't imagine government agencies screwing up.

oldfart

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2024, 08:11:01 AM »
Im just amazed that some people can't imagine government agencies screwing up.
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exactly

example...
Nobody wants to be a cop nowadays because of the heightened scrutiny and attention they get.
Cops deal with drug-crazed and violent criminals, but they are supposed to be nice and gentle when arresting these people?
What, Me Worry?

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2024, 08:14:40 AM »
Cool story, bro.

So, you believe every person that gave an interview was able to see the top of the roof the shooter was killed on, regardless of their proximity to the building?

Of course they will think the shot had to have come from the  tower.  it's inconceivable a shooter could have been as close as the shooter was when he fired.

Maybe the tower sniper shot the patsy on the roof, just in case the secret service missed?  That theory would play much better in your multi-shooter fantasy, don't you think?  Because the Jack Ruby scenario requires a second sacrificial lamb, and the Epstein suicide route is just too recent.

i hope the people feeding your delusion appreciate the clicks and views you're driving their way.

Keep up the good work!
Why are you so quick to discredit anything that questions the official narrative regarding the Trump shooting?

Since I know you don't believe in the Deep State, Power Okole, etc., it's very flattering to see how much effort you put in your responses to my posts on this topic especially when you don't think the Trump shooting was an inside job.   :shaka:

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2024, 08:18:31 AM »
Why are you so quick to discredit anything that questions the official narrative regarding the Trump shooting?

Since I know you don't believe in the Deep State, Power Okole, etc., it's very flattering to see how much effort you put in your responses to my posts on this topic especially when you don't think the Trump shooting was an inside job.   :shaka:

I believe with everything but the intentional graze to the ear.

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2024, 08:24:03 AM »
I like how people are demanding Trump's medical evaluation for an ear nick but complained when others asked Biden for a cognitive test.  I get it that he might have some PTSD but he seems to be handling it well.  Others say an AR-15 round would've blown part of his head off when it hit his ear.  Seems a bit overblown.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: There are still key questions about Trump’s injuries after attempted assassination

A full public assessment of Trump’s injuries is necessary, for both the former president’s own health and the clarity it can provide for voters about the recovery of the man who could become president of the United States once again. The concern is that gunshot blasts near the head can cause injuries that aren’t immediately noticeable, such as bleeding in or on the brain, damage to the inner ear or even psychological trauma.

« Last Edit: July 19, 2024, 09:08:22 AM by zippz »

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2024, 08:31:53 AM »
I believe with everything but the intentional graze to the ear.

Allow me to clarify.

While most are focusing on the "officially recognized" deceased patsy who did his role and now taking the blame, I truly believe the real shooter did exactly as ordered: fire off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver the actual warning shot that grazed Trump.  Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy assassinations in the 1960's, no one will be able to debunk the current evolving Trump assassination attempt narrative until after the current adult population and everyone involved are long dead.
Based on my original post, I said the real shooter's primary mission was to fire warning shots at Trump and not specifically target his ear per se.  The fact a rifle round did in-fact grazed Trump's ear is in my view unintentional since killing Trump at this moment before the November election would only lead to possible civil war that the Power Okole, Deep State, etc. can't control its outcome and, hence, does not want.

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2024, 08:42:44 AM »
Similar to macsak's thread on this issue, more potential evidence of discrediting a single shooter has surfaced.

Now, audio analysis suggests noise from Weapon A and Weapon B.

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2024, 08:48:25 AM »
you did not say "not specifically target his ear"...

Allow me to clarify.
Based on my original post, I said the real shooter's primary mission was to fire warning shots at Trump and not specifically target his ear per se.  The fact a rifle round did in-fact grazed Trump's ear is in my view unintentional since killing Trump at this moment before the November election would only lead to possible civil war that the Power Okole, Deep State, etc. can't control its outcome and, hence, does not want.

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2024, 09:12:37 AM »
Allow me to clarify.
Based on my original post, I said the real shooter's primary mission was to fire warning shots at Trump and not specifically target his ear per se.  The fact a rifle round did in-fact grazed Trump's ear is in my view unintentional since killing Trump at this moment before the November election would only lead to possible civil war that the Power Okole, Deep State, etc. can't control its outcome and, hence, does not want.

At least that's a bit more realistic.

But the premise is still flawed cause an attempted assassination would help Trump win and increase his resolve.  I can see an idiot like that 20yr old shooter thinking that, but not some kind of mastermind high level organization.