I live on the BI, but have been to turtle bay.
it is a beautiful place!
Traffic SUX! and over built in some areas.
Hawaii housing costs has one problem, a single party run state.
from the lowest level workers to the highest levels of government,
there is no diversity of thought.
No new ideas gets you stagnation, which is what Hawaii is.
Many continental US states are the same way. All controlled by Democrats.
Guess which of those states is losing population? All of them.
Hawaii is losing its youth, what you will have left is what?
Old rich people and only the servants that service their needs.
