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macsak

ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« on: September 13, 2024, 01:13:22 PM »
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QUIETShooter

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2024, 03:19:46 PM »
Damn, these left-wingers make no secret to their deceptions anymore.  I sincerely hope voters who watched the debate and now learn about the joke it ended up being, take their vote seriously and not buy into the Taylor Swift BS or the "Spread the Joy" amateur hour slogan.

But the hardest part of the article to read was about the late term abortions and how walz signed legislation where abortion clinics are no longer required to report late term abortions where the child was born alive.  All those murdered babies under his watch.

Hell is not enough for monsters like walz and the person that picked him to be her running mate.
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hvybarrels

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2024, 06:40:19 AM »
Everyone saw it. That's why it pushed more undecided voters in Trump's direction.
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rhayder

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2024, 12:58:34 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on September 14, 2024, 06:40:19 AM
Everyone saw it. That's why it pushed more undecided voters in Trump's direction.

The moderators are required to fact check. Trump could have chosen to tell the truth and instead he lied and put out more disinformation.
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Chrashd

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2024, 01:15:17 PM »
Kamala Harris was fact checked "0"but she never said anything solid enough to be fact checked!! No facts...no check!!?
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hvybarrels

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2024, 01:25:37 PM »
Quote from: rhayder on September 14, 2024, 12:58:34 PM
The moderators are required to fact check. Trump could have chosen to tell the truth and instead he lied and put out more disinformation.

The reason the Trump debate clips are getting posted everywhere and Kamala is memory holed is that everything he said was inspirational and/or infuriating versus the easily disprovable whoppers of her handlers and back up team.
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QUIETShooter

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2024, 01:50:27 PM »
Quote from: rhayder on September 14, 2024, 12:58:34 PM
The moderators are required to fact check. Trump could have chosen to tell the truth and instead he lied and put out more disinformation.

Required?  Moderators of a debate moderate.  It is the debaters who fact check each other.  It is a debate.

In an interview, the interviewer can and should fact-check.  Something kamala does not like to do.  Interviews.  Unless they are her friend.

ABC is getting trashed all over the internet for fact-checking Trump 5 times, and not even fact-checking kamala once.

And please, do not tell us they didn't fact check her because she told no lies. :rofl:
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hvybarrels

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2024, 02:10:54 PM »
They weren’t fact checks. The moderators lied.
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zippz

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2024, 03:28:09 PM »
Quote from: rhayder on September 14, 2024, 12:58:34 PM
The moderators are required to fact check. Trump could have chosen to tell the truth and instead he lied and put out more disinformation.

Moderates can fact check as long as they do it equally to both sides.  Same with followup questions.  They're supposed to be neutral.  The fact checking and tough followups weren't done with Harris when they should've been.

And there are different sides and degrees to fact checking based on one's point of view.  Like Trump saying he had no inflation.  If you do it strictly by what was said, it was false because there was 1 to 2% inflation and not zero.  But if you do it with context, he had zero inflation when compared to past numbers and compared to the past four years.
Kamala's quote that no service members were in war zones.  Service members are currently in and have died in war zones.  Iraq, Syria, Red Sea, and lots of other places.  But it could be true if she meant US declared war zones since the US hasn't declared war on another nation in a long time.
That's the problem and abuse of "fact checking".
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rhayder

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2024, 03:31:24 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on September 14, 2024, 01:50:27 PM
Required?  Moderators of a debate moderate.  It is the debaters who fact check each other.  It is a debate.

In an interview, the interviewer can and should fact-check.  Something kamala does not like to do.  Interviews.  Unless they are her friend.

ABC is getting trashed all over the internet for fact-checking Trump 5 times, and not even fact-checking kamala once.

And please, do not tell us they didn't fact check her because she told no lies. :rofl:

You need to read the terms agreed to. Debates are not a platform where candidates are supposed to blatantly lie and spread disinformation on national TV. The moderators have fact checkers working in the background to check both sides and they also check in advance of the debate. 
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rhayder

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2024, 03:33:04 PM »
Quote from: zippz on September 14, 2024, 03:28:09 PM
Moderates can fact check as long as they do it equally to both sides.  Same with followup questions.  They're supposed to be neutral.  The fact checking and tough followups weren't done with Harris when they should've been.

That's because Harris is not a compulsive liar. Trump is inherently a dishonest person that lies often so of course he would be fact checked more often.
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rhayder

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2024, 03:36:11 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on September 14, 2024, 02:10:54 PM
They weren’t fact checks. The moderators lied.

So are you saying that they lied about contacting the city manager and being told there were no reports of migrants eating the dogs and the cats?
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macsak

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2024, 04:55:31 PM »
nope
the city manager was lying...

Quote from: rhayder on September 14, 2024, 03:36:11 PM
So are you saying that they lied about contacting the city manager and being told there were no reports of migrants eating the dogs and the cats?
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zippz

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2024, 06:01:51 PM »
Quote from: rhayder on September 14, 2024, 03:33:04 PM
That's because Harris is not a compulsive liar. Trump is inherently a dishonest person that lies often so of course he would be fact checked more often.

I haven't watched it yet, is there anything in the debate Harris lied about or was deceitful on?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2024, 08:19:36 PM »
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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macsak

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2024, 09:49:07 PM »
Quote from: zippz on September 14, 2024, 06:01:51 PM
I haven't watched it yet, is there anything in the debate Harris lied about or was deceitful on?

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Kalikikopa

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2024, 09:52:13 PM »
Quote from: rhayder on September 14, 2024, 12:58:34 PM
The moderators are required to fact check. Trump could have chosen to tell the truth and instead he lied and put out more disinformation.
Then where was the fact check against any of the 25 lies Harris told? You know your post is B.S.
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macsak

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2024, 11:11:31 PM »
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QUIETShooter

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2024, 06:07:08 AM »
Quote from: zippz on September 14, 2024, 06:01:51 PM
I haven't watched it yet, is there anything in the debate Harris lied about or was deceitful on?

They could have corrected her when she mentioned Project 2025.  There is no proof that Trump intends to implement it when elected.

Right at the beginning of the debate too.  smh.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: ABC Moderator Straight Up Admits They Had To Tip The Scales Against Trump
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2024, 12:15:58 PM »
Quote from: zippz on September 14, 2024, 06:01:51 PM
I haven't watched it yet, is there anything in the debate Harris lied about or was deceitful on?

She lied about inheriting a failed COVID response from the WH.  Even Biden was taking the vaccine in Dec before the inauguration, so to say they were the ones fighting the virus was a lie.  All they needed to do was increase production -- as Trump planned -- and get  people vaccinated -- which was also Trump's plan.

She repeated the lie about Trump's Charlottesville quote calling Nazis very fine people,  That's been debunked a thousand times, yet she and Biden hope the voters are too stupid to notice.

She lied about Trump being a racist, going back to a single racial discrimination case from the 1970s.  Trump and his father owned the business and were sued for not accepting apartment rental applications from Blacks.  The settlement did not involve any admission of guilt, and as soon as it was settled, President Trump changed the business' practices to conform the the Fair Housing Act.  Trump has been praised and received awards from many groups and individuals like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for his contributions to the Black community.



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