today's trump shooter (Read 6729 times)

macsak

today's trump shooter
« on: September 15, 2024, 01:48:29 PM »
lived in hawaii for the last several years...

dafrtknocker

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2024, 03:00:06 PM »
https://nypost.com/2024/09/15/us-news/shooting-reported-at-donald-trumps-golf-club-while-ex-president-was-on-grounds/


The suspect — identified as Ryan Routh, 58, of Hawaii — was able to get between 300 to 500 yards of Trump at a chain link fence on the edge of the course where he had an AK-47 and a GoPro camera set up to apparently film the planned shooting.

Q

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2024, 05:02:36 PM »
lived in hawaii for the last several years...

Excited for rhayder's 7 posts about this.

QUIETShooter

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2024, 05:46:55 PM »
Hawaii's Macadamia NUT.......

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2024, 07:18:06 PM »
i got to 1:44 in that video.

Uses words like collective and the good of others.

The irony is he doesn't understand why Russia doesn't demonstrate those values, yet we know that's the Socialist ideology -- collective good over individual rights.

He's so close to the truth, but he can't think critically in the context of the leaders of nations, including the US.

When you wish for a utopia and the capitalists are preventing it, you are by definition a socialist.  You will justify violence against others in the name of achieving that utopia -- a paradise that has yet to succeed in any country in which it's been tried.

There's a reason for that, but the socialists will never accept it.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2024, 08:04:39 PM »
Excited for rhayder's 7 posts about this.

He was warned about crossing the yellow line during a ceasefire
Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2024, 08:10:39 PM »
Despite his criminal record;
Routh's eldest son, Oran, told CNN via text that Routh was "a loving and caring father, and honest hardworking man... I don't know what's happened in Florida, and I hope things have just been blown out of proportion, because from the little I've heard it doesn't sound like the man I know to do anything crazy, much less violent."

Background checks show Routh is originally from North Carolina. He has a criminal background that includes multiple felonies- one for Possessing a Weapon of Mass Destruction and one for Possessing Stolen Goods. He has a number of misdemeanor convictions as well. His criminal record goes back to 2001.

https://www.kitv.com/news/who-was-suspected-shooter-randy-routh/article_a4b33a7c-73eb-11ef-a78a-67d666b3fe4f.html
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2024, 08:42:48 PM »
I'm so curious as to what kind of weapon of mass destruction he got convicted for.

Front Loader?
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2024, 08:57:28 PM »

rpoL98

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2024, 11:03:59 PM »
lived in hawaii for the last several years...
that's probably where he got radicalized, surrounded by all the Hawaii TDS, no escaping it.

groveler

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2024, 02:45:53 AM »
https://nypost.com/2024/09/15/us-news/shooting-reported-at-donald-trumps-golf-club-while-ex-president-was-on-grounds/


The suspect — identified as Ryan Routh, 58, of Hawaii — was able to get between 300 to 500 yards of Trump at a chain link fence on the edge of the course where he had an AK-47 and a GoPro camera set up to apparently film the planned shooting.
I'd be surprised how anybody from Hawaii got an AK 47!
You have to beg the government to get a .22 cal single shot here.
Even going to the mainland gangs getting a true AK47 would be hard for anybody,
If I wanted an AK 47 I'd go to Africa,
 :popcorn:


rpoL98

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2024, 04:01:34 AM »
Despite his criminal record;
Routh's eldest son, Oran, told CNN via text that Routh was "a loving and caring father, and honest hardworking man... I don't know what's happened in Florida, and I hope things have just been blown out of proportion, because from the little I've heard it doesn't sound like the man I know to do anything crazy, much less violent."

Background checks show Routh is originally from North Carolina. He has a criminal background that includes multiple felonies- one for Possessing a Weapon of Mass Destruction and one for Possessing Stolen Goods. He has a number of misdemeanor convictions as well. His criminal record goes back to 2001.

https://www.kitv.com/news/who-was-suspected-shooter-randy-routh/article_a4b33a7c-73eb-11ef-a78a-67d666b3fe4f.html
they left out the part with:
"In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Oran claimed his dad is not a violent person and couldn't believe his father would target the president.
'This was the first I heard about it,' the 35-year-old said upon realizing his dad's involvement. 'Was my father shot or injured?'
He said his father hates Trump as 'every reasonable person does', adding ‘I don't like Trump either.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13854445/Donald-Trump-golf-course-shooter-Ryan-Wesley-neighbor.html

oldfart

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2024, 05:44:56 AM »
I'm so curious as to what kind of weapon of mass destruction he got convicted for.

Front Loader?
....
Convicted on "Trumped-up charges".  :rofl:

...sorry for the bad joke. I couldn't resist.
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2024, 07:21:21 AM »
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Convicted on "Trumped-up charges".  :rofl:

...sorry for the bad joke. I couldn't resist.

 :rofl: :thumbsup:

Seriously, though, I hope it becomes available.  My guess is a grenade, maybe?

When I was in the National Guard we do annual training with live weapons and one of them is grenades.  So we were training and if 60 grenades get issued, there very damn well have 60 expended grenade pins handed back in.

On that particular day, only 59 was handed in.  (I'm using 60 as an example but what happened was one less grenade pin was not accounted for)

It's a big deal.  They stood us in formation for hours, while they tried to figure out if it was stolen, being hidden, or if it was a logistical mistake.

After hours and hours of making sure everyone is accounted for while they figured it out, they seemingly solved the problem.  What happened was never disclosed.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2024, 07:35:18 AM »
:rofl: :thumbsup:

Seriously, though, I hope it becomes available.  My guess is a grenade, maybe?

When I was in the National Guard we do annual training with live weapons and one of them is grenades.  So we were training and if 60 grenades get issued, there very damn well have 60 expended grenade pins handed back in.

On that particular day, only 59 was handed in.  (I'm using 60 as an example but what happened was one less grenade pin was not accounted for)

It's a big deal.  They stood us in formation for hours, while they tried to figure out if it was stolen, being hidden, or if it was a logistical mistake.

After hours and hours of making sure everyone is accounted for while they figured it out, they seemingly solved the problem.  What happened was never disclosed.


Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2024, 09:13:57 AM »
The pic looks like a SKS with an AK type 30rd mag. I didn't see a pistol grip on the rifle.

rhayder

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2024, 11:00:24 AM »
What did he do wrong? Do you support the 2A? He was practicing open carry on public property right? Did he break the law or was he just minding his own business and was fired upon?

The way most here criticize Hawaii Laws, I'm surprised more people aren't supporting his right to open carry.

Maybe this is incident is a reason that we should not allow open carry anywhere and need to have some regulations and restrictions. You might blame Florida's lax gun laws for this incident.

changemyoil66

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2024, 11:07:48 AM »
What did he do wrong? Do you support the 2A? He was practicing open carry on public property right? Did he break the law or was he just minding his own business and was fired upon?

The way most here criticize Hawaii Laws, I'm surprised more people aren't supporting his right to open carry.

Maybe this is incident is a reason that we should not allow open carry anywhere and need to have some regulations and restrictions. You might blame Florida's lax gun laws for this incident.


Annnnddd here's the TDS again.  You should read the LEO report as it answers all your questions.

macsak

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2024, 11:08:44 AM »
you can easily look up the charges if you don't know...

What did he do wrong? Do you support the 2A? He was practicing open carry on public property right? Did he break the law or was he just minding his own business and was fired upon?

The way most here criticize Hawaii Laws, I'm surprised more people aren't supporting his right to open carry.

Maybe this is incident is a reason that we should not allow open carry anywhere and need to have some regulations and restrictions. You might blame Florida's lax gun laws for this incident.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: today's trump shooter
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2024, 11:12:30 AM »
What did he do wrong? Do you support the 2A? He was practicing open carry on public property right? Did he break the law or was he just minding his own business and was fired upon?

The way most here criticize Hawaii Laws, I'm surprised more people aren't supporting his right to open carry.

Maybe this is incident is a reason that we should not allow open carry anywhere and need to have some regulations and restrictions. You might blame Florida's lax gun laws for this incident.

According to witnesses, the barrel of the rifle was protruding through the fence before he was fired upon. 

Pointing a firearm is not just open carrying.  It's at a minimum brandishing.  If it was pointed in the direction of someone, that's at least aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and/or terroristic threatening.  if he fired the rifle, that's discharging his rifle illegally and attempted murder.

i'm sure given who he was shooting in the direction of, he'll have some more serious charges, too.

So, shut up about his 2A rights.  Leave it to you to argue he has a constitutional right to shoot a rifle into a golf course.

 :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw