The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals (Read 2910 times)

obm

The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« on: September 24, 2024, 01:51:23 PM »
Ground News is a site that keeps track of political bias in the media.  Recently, they found a report on the rise in gun ownership by liberals.  Ground News found that all the news outlets that reported on this finding were right leaning or center news organizations.  Not one left leaning news outlet reported on this finding.

https://ground.news/article/9c0a7793-d790-4caa-9d92-719598204492

ren

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2024, 02:19:06 PM »
they have a common trait, they dont follow range safety rules amd are color blind to yellow
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Begle1

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2024, 04:24:16 PM »
Getting guns into hands that haven't traditionally held guns is the best way to defend access to guns in the long run.

Trap shooting for everybody!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2024, 04:40:29 PM »
Some people don't believe the Wet Paint sign until they are have to wash their hands and clothes to get the paint off.

You can try to get people to believe what you know, but it falls on many deaf ears.  They only believe what they know -- even after being proven wrong.

I think all the riots, breakdowns in the justice department, and the pandemic have shown the people with at least an ounce of reasoning that the government not only isn't the answer, but quite often they are the problem.

I once read a quote from and avid gun hater who said something like:  I know how angry and impulsive I can get sometimes, so i don't think it's smart for me to own a gun.  I think most people are the same as me.

It's the "if I shouldn't have a gun, then nobody should have one," mindset.

Lots of those types changed their mindset after they saw how reliant they/we have become on government to deal with crime.  When gangs take advantage and loot every store they can, and you aren't allowed to use public transportation without proof of vaccinations, it starts to drive home the truth.  Better be prepared -- for anyhing.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 04:46:26 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2024, 05:28:08 PM »
How a liberal defends herself
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oldfart

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2024, 05:51:46 PM »
We may see a lot of fudds.
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stangzilla

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2024, 06:01:13 PM »
seen this guy kokohead this past weekend pistol side gets there last minute so RSO tells him go set up his target. he tries walking over that front berm. RSO tells him, "go through the opening in the middle."  :rofl:

mrgaf

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2024, 09:23:57 PM »
Getting guns into hands that haven't traditionally held guns is the best way to defend access to guns in the long run.

Trap shooting for everybody!

As an avid trap shooter I don’t need no lefty liberal with a shogun on the range next to me!  :shake:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2024, 09:28:03 PM »
seen this guy kokohead this past weekend pistol side gets there last minute so RSO tells him go set up his target. he tries walking over that front berm. RSO tells him, "go through the opening in the middle."  :rofl:

That's rather disconcerting.

I still think they need a range orientation for new visitors to list the rules, demonstrate how each range operates, etc.  Just requiring a firearm safety class and state issued gun permit to acquire doesn't do squat for newbies if they aren't shooting with a buddy or relative.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

tim808

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2024, 11:13:56 PM »
More firearm owners are a great thing!

The shooting sports fair at Kokohead was to get more people into shooting.

oldfart

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2024, 02:09:05 AM »
The shooting sports fair at Kokohead was to get more people into shooting.
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I miss having the SSF.
It was a really good thing and they even did a Foodbank promotion.

What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2024, 06:39:13 AM »
Would be nice if the Shooting Sports Fair would come back.  Why did it stop?

Did Hawaii's leaders provide a hostile environment to discourage this? ;)
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2024, 07:13:37 AM »
Would be nice if the Shooting Sports Fair would come back.  Why did it stop?

Did Hawaii's leaders provide a hostile environment to discourage this? ;)
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Everything stopped during the covid years.
Remember we had curfew imposed at night?
It was creepy driving home late at night with ZERO cars on the freeway. I had a placard and a letter from homeland security permitting me passage. There were cops parked on the H1.
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2024, 08:46:20 AM »
That's rather disconcerting.

I still think they need a range orientation for new visitors to list the rules, demonstrate how each range operates, etc.  Just requiring a firearm safety class and state issued gun permit to acquire doesn't do squat for newbies if they aren't shooting with a buddy or relative.

Clark County Shooting Range (Vegas) has this.  They tell you to watch the vid and it's short and to the point.

oldfart

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2024, 10:30:02 AM »
Clark County Shooting Range (Vegas) has this.  They tell you to watch the vid and it's short and to the point.
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Good idea.
But we have the ainokea mentality here.
I betcha dey no even put da real name in the sign up book.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2024, 11:16:05 AM »
Clark County Shooting Range (Vegas) has this.  They tell you to watch the vid and it's short and to the point.

Every private range on the mainland I've used in multiple states has this, too.

I haven't surveyed public ranges, but I'd think most do this to keep new shooters from creating a safety risk.

It's so simple to record and edit a range operation and safety video that's 5 minutes or less runtime.  Most places hand you a business card size "membership" card that says you've done the orientation -- for future visits.

The alternative is hoping visitors spend 5 minutes reading the bulletin board and notice all the signage throughout the range.

When I'd take mainland visitors the KHSC, I gave them the 411 before breaking out the hardware.  Eye and ear protection, target restrictions, number of rounds to load, no rapid fire, guns unloaded and action open during cease fire, what the yellow line is for, keeping the muzzle downrange, etc, etc.

It's a lot to think about for a new visitor, especially if they have never fired a gun before.  Many of my visitors were inexperienced -- they had never gone to a range and/or had never fired the types of firearms I'd provided.

Has anyone ever approached the range officials about this?  It would help the RSOs keep everyone safer.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2024, 01:14:54 PM »
Re. Khsc indoctrination video and qualification card.

Someone will say this is an infringement on 2a rights.
Therein lies the problem. Few public facilities are governed by a constitutional right.
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changemyoil66

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2024, 01:37:30 PM »
Re. Khsc indoctrination video and qualification card.

Someone will say this is an infringement on 2a rights.
Therein lies the problem. Few public facilities are governed by a constitutional right.

The Clark County video isn't required, but recommended.  That's what I was told when I called to ask about their rules. 

All the RSO's have to do is point at the video search words to find it on youtube and say the following "If this is your first time here, it's highly recommended to watch the video, or you gonna make ass of yourself when you make a mistake."

I've seen this happen all the time at the race track when it was open. Noobs were recommended to go on a ride along in "the van" and the driver explained what each lane was for and the que's to watch for.  Then the van did the 1/4 mile at like 26 seconds or so.  You can tell the guys who didn't go on the ride along because they fucked up the lines and held things up. Many got kicked out for the day.  Then when you get your number after the ride along, they put a "N" next to it.

oldfart

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2024, 02:00:35 PM »
The Clark County video isn't required, but recommended.  That's what I was told when I called to ask about their rules. 
All the RSO's have to do is point at the video search words to find it on youtube and say the following "If this is your first time here, it's highly recommended to watch the video, or you gonna ...
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This sounds reasonable and doable.
It might help.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Most Surprising New Gun Owners Are U.S. Liberals
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2024, 04:40:42 PM »
The Clark County video isn't required, but recommended.  That's what I was told when I called to ask about their rules. 
All the RSO's have to do is point at the video search words to find it on youtube and say the following "If this is your first time here, it's highly recommended to watch the video, or you gonna ...
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This sounds reasonable and doable.
It might help.

I don't think requiring a safety briefing will get anyone's panties in a bunch.

With the number of hoops we  jump through just to own and transport a firearm, watching a safety briefing is a more reasonable rule than those.  At least it has a real purpose -- to ensure everyone at the range knows enough to keep everyone safer.

I thought about adding it to the firearm safety training required for a PTA, but then the visitors only shooting guns they don't own would not have the training.

I was thinking of placing the video online so you could watch it at your leisure or optionally at the range (with noise cancelling headphones!).  You could receive a certificate via email or text message with the date/time you completed the briefing.

This is one issue I consider common sense.  You don't put an untrained person behind the wheel of a car on a highway and say, "Go for it!"  Neither should you tell someone who's never been to this specific range, "Just wing it."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw