Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured (Read 19764 times)

338KID

Re: 9 killed in bus accident
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2012, 10:23:56 AM »
Problem is he is not going to say anything in public.  He really is that smart.  He knows that the gun lobby in the country is huge and he will not risk saying what he really intends in public.  That is what makes this whole administration so damn dangerous.  The most 'transparent' administration has been the most secretive for the first term, and it appears it will be worst the second.

But don't worry, it's just a hobby for you...

Oh, and thank you for supporting this idiot in the election.
Nice job on your research . Look up Mitt Romneys gun bans as a gov. hmmm interesting. Are u a vet,active member serving, police ? if you are i give you all my respect ,and thankyou . If not then you are just an hobbyists too.
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

Heavies

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2012, 10:27:29 AM »
Nice job on your research . Look up Mitt Romneys gun bans as a gov. hmmm interesting. Are u a vet,active member serving, police ? if you are i give you all my respect ,and thankyou . If not then you are just an hobbyists too.

So you think if Rom got in, we would still be worrying about our rights at this point in time?  Maybe so, but IMO I think we would be worrying as hard as we are now.

And I don't know what serving has to do with gun rights.  So, you are in that camp too?

ren

Re: 9 killed in bus accident
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2012, 10:29:16 AM »
Hey you know what thankyou . And yes if I had to do it again I would vote for him again . Nice back ground check r u CIA ?
CIA doesn't do background checks on U.S. citizens. Refer to Executive Order 12333.
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338KID

Re: 9 killed in bus accident
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2012, 10:30:49 AM »
CIA doesn't do background checks on U.S. citizens. Refer to Executive Order 12333.
it was a joke sir
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

338KID

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2012, 10:39:05 AM »
So you think if Rom got in, we would still be worrying about our rights at this point in time?  Maybe so, but IMO I think we would be worrying as hard as we are now.

And I don't know what serving has to do with gun rights.  So, you are in that camp too?
it was a monster behind the rifle not the rifle that put Obama in this spot . It could've happend to anyone in charge .. 2nd you called me a hobbyist, so I'm trying to see where are you coming from . So are you? You brought in the politics. You called me an idiot so let's see where your at
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

338KID

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2012, 11:10:45 AM »
Lol let's leave the bickering to the children and figure how to fix this problem that we all face .
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

xer 21

Re: 9 killed in bus accident
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2012, 12:05:16 PM »
Hey you know what thankyou . And yes if I had to do it again I would vote for him again . Nice back ground check r u CIA ?
he hacked the system...

to see your post history.

Heavies

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2012, 12:49:32 PM »
Nice job on your research . Look up Mitt Romneys gun bans as a gov. hmmm interesting. Are u a vet,active member serving, police ? if you are i give you all my respect ,and thankyou . If not then you are just an hobbyists too.
it was a monster behind the rifle not the rifle that put Obama in this spot . It could've happend to anyone in charge .. 2nd you called me a hobbyist, so I'm trying to see where are you coming from . So are you? You brought in the politics. You called me an idiot so let's see where your at

I'll admit it I voted for Obama . Hate it all u want . Guns r a hobby . They don't pay my bills ,Obama is a union man . The second amendment is not something that just one man can easily get  rid of . I'm just saying

I don't hate you, I didn't mean to say you were an idiot.  I meant to say the guy in charge now is an idiot, for the irrational concept of banning weapons because of a crazy persons evils, and milking the whole situation for political agenda at the expense of the lives of so many innocent. 

I was just trying to point out that your choice may have been an incorrect one, and that this is not just a 'hobby'.  It is a right.  I see your points that BHO is a 'union man', however, I am fairly sure, if MR was elected, that your job would not be taken from you.  Maybe a pay cut, for me, most likely a pay cut.  But in the bigger picture, I think the protection of rights are more important in the long run.

Sorry for taking the liberty in making assumptions, just postulating for the sake of debate.

Lol let's leave the bickering to the children and figure how to fix this problem that we all face .

Sorry for starting a bickering session.  And true, I should not bicker with fellow gun owners.  WE need to stand together, if we want to continue to have our freedom.

338KID

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2012, 01:20:10 PM »
We all live and die by the choices we make good or bad . Trust my I got a few things that I don't want to be taken away . I just don't see what's so funny about innocent people dying and people making a mockery of it . You want to stop you ban that fight for it . Saying little messed up things on a forum ain't helping our cause . There's a lot of good people out there fighting for our rights .
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

Colt808

Re: 9 killed in bus accident
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2012, 02:58:50 PM »
HAHAHAHA you guys r so funny. Shit making fun of a tragedy is so cool . Bunch of losers  :wtf:. Grow up .
I agree with your point and have said it myself:  making light of (any) tragedy is unproductive and only supports the idea that gun owners are ignorant and insensitive "monsters".

But calling them losers and telling them to grow up? Well, that's just as unproductive and only serves to stir up stupidity all around. You would've been better served to say something like: "What happened is tragic. Let's be respectful of the dead...We're better than this."

Sorry for starting a bickering session.  And true, I should not bicker with fellow gun owners.  WE need to stand together, if we want to continue to have our freedom.
Exactly. The gun grabbers are united under one cause: TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS. We're only helping them by discussing and bickering over the dumbest things. Seriously, why are we arguing over video games, bus accidents, media spin, etc? Wouldn't we ALL be better served in saying "We support the Second Amendment of the US Constitution...YOU CAN NOT HAVE MY GUNS."...then STFU.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


And I still see stupid people.

338KID

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2012, 03:12:04 PM »
You know Colt your right . The youth in me came out to fast on that . It just burns when we the people don't realize what's at stake. I do see the point that they are trying to get out . It's just not the way to handle this situation we are in .
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

Izanagi

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2012, 03:15:49 PM »
We all live and die by the choices we make good or bad . Trust my I got a few things that I don't want to be taken away . I just don't see what's so funny about innocent people dying and people making a mockery of it . You want to stop you ban that fight for it . Saying little messed up things on a forum ain't helping our cause . There's a lot of good people out there fighting for our rights .

who said anything about making fun of people dying.  If you weren't so blinded by your political views and the fact that you are so used to defending yourself and the actions of your elected candidate on forums like these that you don't even see the post for what it is. 

Are we making fun of the deaths that occur? No.  We're making fun of how ridiculous the proposed awb is.  Everyone else who's responded to this thread has picked up on that and has responded accordingly.  Except you.

GZire

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2012, 03:22:50 PM »
We all live and die by the choices we make good or bad . Trust my I got a few things that I don't want to be taken away . I just don't see what's so funny about innocent people dying and people making a mockery of it . You want to stop you ban that fight for it . Saying little messed up things on a forum ain't helping our cause . There's a lot of good people out there fighting for our rights .

Your point is well taken, however the 1st A is in there for everyone.  For the lovers of free speech and for the haters.  Once you start going down the road of censorship, then it's a slippery slope.

As with 2nd A, there are limits, but be careful about what you wish for.  Eroding our 1st A Rights is no different than any of the others.

Agree to disagree.

338KID

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2012, 03:32:52 PM »
who said anything about making fun of people dying.  If you weren't so blinded by your political views and the fact that you are so used to defending yourself and the actions of your elected candidate on forums like these that you don't even see the post for what it is. 

Are we making fun of the deaths that occur? No.  We're making fun of how ridiculous the proposed awb is.  Everyone else who's responded to this thread has picked up on that and has responded accordingly.  Except you.
[/quote first of all sir I did not bring in the political stance . The person I was debating brought it in . Sorry if I may seem blinded by it but I am not .
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

338KID

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2012, 03:52:04 PM »
I am not here to start a war among my peers . The political stance was bought in by the one I was debating not me .. I may of came off to strong probably the youth in me as I stated to Colt808.. trust me I have rifles that people only dream of . You think I want that taken away ? The wording of some words may have good meaning to some, but to other it might have a bigger blow back  . If its me that's slipping down a slop . Then its my actions that put me there ,but I will fall firing .  I'm just saying wrong tactics that's all.
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

hvybarrels

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2012, 05:05:02 PM »
Can't we all just get along and return to making jokes about a tragedy?
You don't need a parachute to go skydiving. You need a parachute to go skydiving twice.

Heavies

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2012, 05:07:45 PM »
Can't we all just get along and return to making jokes about a tragedy?
No

hvybarrels

Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2012, 05:10:52 PM »
You don't need a parachute to go skydiving. You need a parachute to go skydiving twice.

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Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
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Re: Another Senseless Tragedy in Oregon. 9 die 26 injured
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2013, 07:09:05 AM »
I'm actually sorry I wisecracked about it.  I even debated with myself whether I should post or not, but the juiciness of the analogy between the bus tragedy and the reactions to the school tragedies was just too much to resist.

I'm weak.  Weak as water.

338KID is right, in a sense, so I am guilty.

Let that be the worst sin of my week.

BTW, at least 338KID has apparently read Bill Jordan's "No Second Place Winner."  As far as I'm concerned, that qualifies him to speak.  I believe the way Jordan put it was "Speed's fine, but accuracy's final."

Terry, 230RN
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I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.