Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice (Read 1145 times)

hvybarrels

Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice
« on: October 23, 2024, 01:11:16 AM »
Apparently they thought shooting metal plates from 15 feet away with an AR would be a great pr stunt.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/reporter-injured-bullet-fragment-during-kinzinger-democrat-campaign-stunt




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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2024, 04:18:12 AM »
Does anybody here shoot an AR with your support hand wrapped around the front of the mag well/mag?  I support the barrel from underneath the handguard like I do with all rifles.

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Kunce, a former Marine, wrapped gauze around Gamboa's arm and applied a tourniquet using his belt,
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After he was treated, Gamboa soldiered on covering the event.

If i'm not mistaken, ever since Boy Scout first aid many decades ago, I was taught that a tourniquet was a last resort option to stop a bleed.  It has to be so tight as to completely cut off the blood supply to the limb.  Once applied, you need to seek immediate medical treatment if you want to keep that limb.

A tourniquet requires a stick to twist the belt tightly enough to prevent bleeding out.

Looking at the 1st photo, the belt was simply used to hold the gauze in place and apply pressure directly to the wound.

I'll go out on a limb here and say a tourniquet was not applied, and the person writing this story was either fed a story that sounded cooler than it really was or they made it up themselves.  Or, since they are democrats, maybe they are just ignorant?

Amusing that a PR stunt was overshadowed by the reporter's injury in a poorly written article which includes misinformation.

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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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oldfart

Re: Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2024, 07:46:50 AM »
Owner of the range should know better.
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changemyoil66

Re: Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2024, 08:08:44 AM »
Does anybody here shoot an AR with your support hand wrapped around the front of the mag well/mag?  I support the barrel from underneath the handguard like I do with all rifles.

If i'm not mistaken, ever since Boy Scout first aid many decades ago, I was taught that a tourniquet was a last resort option to stop a bleed.  It has to be so tight as to completely cut off the blood supply to the limb.  Once applied, you need to seek immediate medical treatment if you want to keep that limb.

A tourniquet requires a stick to twist the belt tightly enough to prevent bleeding out.

Looking at the 1st photo, the belt was simply used to hold the gauze in place and apply pressure directly to the wound.

I'll go out on a limb here and say a tourniquet was not applied, and the person writing this story was either fed a story that sounded cooler than it really was or they made it up themselves.  Or, since they are democrats, maybe they are just ignorant?

Amusing that a PR stunt was overshadowed by the reporter's injury in a poorly written article which includes misinformation.

Tell me you're a democrat without telling me you're a democrat.

I used to shoot like that until I learned a better/proper way.

It's just unsanitary for the injured reporter to keep working. I mean, it's not like only little bit blood was coming out.  His entire arm is covered and so is his sleeve.  Even if he washed his hands after, there's still lots of blood.

You are right about a TQ, it should be so tight that it cuts off circulation and thus nerve damage for long term application.  It goes to show what kind of range this is. With allowing steel at 15 feet with an AR and no one else had a TQ. When I take a skill builder, at least half the people have a TQ.  I haven't been to the bench side in years, so IDK about that side. But it could be that "class" people are more medical oriented than bench shooters. But that's 2 strikes and prob a few more (blood thing).

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2024, 03:06:49 PM »
Given the distance to target / tree line and the narrow bench the firearms are on, this was a pistol range.  No room on the bench for rifles, even though he had at least 3 rifles sitting on top of other guns, ammo and equipment while firing a 4th.  Far right, looks like he also brought an AR pistol.

Who brings this many firearms for a "sport shooting campaign event" unless they are trying to brag about how many guns they own?

I hope the candidate has to pay all the medical costs himself -- not insurance and not tax payers.

This was not an accident.  It was full-on negligence.  He never should have been firing that rifle on that range at such a short distance.  Koko Head rifle distances start at 50 yards (150 feet).  compare that with the 15 feet he was supposedly shooting from according to X posts.

I hope the news guy gets a good lawyer and teaches the democrat a lesson or two on gun safety.  Apparently he missed that when training with the Marines.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Don't ask a Democrat for gun advice
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2024, 10:27:12 AM »
The guy who set up the range for the photo op and supplied the firearms is a felon -- multiple times a felon!!

He's also out on bail, and his wife reported to authorities that he possessed firearms in violation of his bond conditions.

I don't care if the candidate is (was) a Marine.  Apparently the Democrat side of his brain controls his thought processes.


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw