Election Fraud 2024 Thread (Read 10978 times)

changemyoil66

Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« on: October 24, 2024, 10:41:10 AM »
Since we had a 2020 thread, lets start one as it's already happening.  Feel free to repost what was already posted in other threads so we can keep track.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2024, 11:12:55 AM »
One of the problems with election violations is the Catch 22 embedded in the process.

if you find a violation before the election, you may not have standing to contest the process prior to the vote count. 

If you win, there's no harm. 

If you wait until the votes are counted, there's no real remedy short of holding a new election for that race.

We are still seeing a ton of 2020 and 2022 cases being decided this year.

Some of the cases involve the states not following their own election laws. 

Our elections to a large degree are being relegated to the courts.  When the decisions take forever to be handed down, it's simply too little too late.
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Pennsylvania and Wisconsin violated their own election laws and procedures in 2020.
These two important rulings emphasize the necessity of the rule of law in elections, in
order to achieve basic election integrity. Elections need to be conducted by the book
so the American people can trust the results.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/14/courts-squash-democrats-most-secure-election-lie-swing-states-didnt-follow-their-own-election-laws-in-2020/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2024, 12:04:20 PM »
our local election office is on Lehua ave, way back near a homeless village ala Mad Max Thunderdome Captain Walker style

We have the LOWEST voter turnout in the nation. We dont care or are too dumb to vote, hence we have dumb people in charge. Thats why he have the most expensive public works project in the nation. We hired monkeys, gave them Viagra and a football.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2024, 12:14:06 PM by ren »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2024, 01:49:21 PM »
Montana election officials caught a Democrat operative allegedly tampering with a ballot box on Sunday.

Crystal Cole, the Glacier County election administrator, called up the Democrat.  He told her he was just testing "to see how secure the box was."

The man in the video is Laszlo Gendler, an employee of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee (DSCC) this cycle.

"Poll observers are instructed not to touch ballot boxes.  This individual was attempting to ensure a new ballot box was secured to the wall, and neither the ballot box or ballots were affected," David Bergstein, DSCC spokesperson told FOX.

This matter has been referred to the Glacier County Sheriff.

The man was recorded on video grabbing the box with both hands, letting go, walking back a few steps, then touching the box again.

The Montana Senatorial Race is one of the tightest races in the country. 

It doesn't have to be a coordinated national conspiracy.  If you can convince millions that Trump is the devil, individuals will find their own ways to screw things up.

As Tim asks in this video, since when is it the place for any member of one campaign or party to "test" ballot boxes?

This may be a test of the state's election system overall .... to see if he would get caught were he to actually try to open or take the ballot box.

The Glacier County ballot box can be found in Montana's First Congressional District, the home of Republican Rep. Ryan Zinke, who is running for reelection against Democrat Monica Tranel. The Montana Democratic Party offered “no comment” to Fox News.

A normal person doesn't act like this.  He had to have some end game in mind.  Did he intend to come back with tools and steal the ballots from the (R) Senator's home district?

https://thepostmillennial.com/dem-operative-caught-allegedly-tampering-with-montana-ballot-box

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2024, 06:49:53 AM »

macsak

macsak

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2024, 08:31:41 AM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2024, 09:56:09 AM »
Arizona election ballots damaged
after USPS mailbox lit on fire,
suspect arrested

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Around 20 mail-in ballots have been damaged in Phoenix after an arson
suspect set fire to a U.S. Postal Service mailbox, officials say.

Dieter Klofkorn, 35, has been arrested on one felony count of Arson to
Property following the incident that unfolded early Thursday morning in
Arizona’s capital.

"Klofkorn stated that he committed the arson because he wanted to be
arrested and that his actions were not politically motivated and not related
to anything involving the upcoming election," the Phoenix Police
Department said in a statement.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizona-election-ballots-damaged-after-usps-mailbox-lit-fire-suspect-arrested

I believe if you start a fire that causes someone to die, even if the deceased was a firefighter, you may be charged with homicide.  It doesn't matter if you were only motivated by revenge, a compulsion or insurance fraud.

In the same way, this guy should be charged with federal crimes -- attempted election interference and voter disenfranchisement among others.  20 counts at least.

This may or may bot have been an attempt to destroy ballots, but the ballots were damaged or destroyed all the same.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2024, 11:43:20 AM »

hvybarrels

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2024, 12:03:12 PM »
"Reinforcing concerns that many Americans have with voting that isn't done in-person, at least 12 Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen, filled out with forged signatures, and submitted -- and three of them are going to count anyway."


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/least-dozen-colorado-ballots-stolen-and-mailed-officials-say
The F in Communism stands for Food

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2024, 12:36:51 PM »
"Reinforcing concerns that many Americans have with voting that isn't done in-person, at least 12 Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen, filled out with forged signatures, and submitted -- and three of them are going to count anyway."


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/least-dozen-colorado-ballots-stolen-and-mailed-officials-say
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but the discovery leaves people wondering how many other forged ballots may
have gone undetected elsewhere in the state and across the country.

This has been the entire problem.  The standard being used by Democrats has been keeping the problem alive.

They tell us, "the number of proven voter fraud instances is not enough to change the results of the election."

Well, that's because you don't know how many instances are out there undetected.  Add to that the cases where there wasn't enough evidence to convict or toss out the ballot.  Then add the observed irregularities of counting thousands of ballots after poll observers were told to go home, boxes of ballots without chain of custody proof, etc, etc.

It all adds up to a bucket of votes large enough to matter collected one drop at a time.

The instances we do find out about at the very least cast doubt on the controls and auditing processes used for every election.

This especially matters in local races where the outcomes are often decided by just a few votes.

One ballot voting for the candidate the real voter didn't want would cause a 2 vote swing -- +1 for the candidate the fraudster picked, and -1 for the candidate the voter would have picked.

It can really add up if every stolen ballot causes a 2 vote shift.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2024, 12:42:59 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2024, 12:52:39 PM »
"Reinforcing concerns that many Americans have with voting that isn't done in-person, at least 12 Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen, filled out with forged signatures, and submitted -- and three of them are going to count anyway."


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/least-dozen-colorado-ballots-stolen-and-mailed-officials-say

Apparently there was a 4th that was to be counted, but the registered voter received a notification that their ballot had been received.  The voter knew he hadn't receive his ballot yet, so he reported the incident to election officials.  It looks like they stopped that one from counting.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2024, 01:19:25 PM »
"Mob" rule brings on a new meaning.

One drop out of a million doesn't mean anything.  Won't change anything.

A million drops all over the place adds up but according to a particular party it's irrelevant.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2024, 01:42:30 PM »
Full statement on previously posted video:

Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of
potentially fraudulent voter registration forms

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Officials in Lancaster County in the swing state of Pennsylvania say they
identified hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration applications.

"Suspected fraudulent voter registration forms were dropped off at the Board
of Elections Office in two batches at or near the deadline for submission,"
the board said in a statement on Friday. "There are approximately 2,500
voter registration applications total in these two batches."
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165382/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2024, 04:01:13 AM »
Full statement on previously posted video:

Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of
potentially fraudulent voter registration forms
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165382/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud



From 6:38 on from the video reveals the most disturbing aspect of all.  And this disturbing aspect is happening in one county.  There are 68 counties in the state of Pennsylvania.

There are 3,242 counties in the US, the district of Columbia, and territories.




Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2024, 07:01:32 AM »

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2024, 09:10:17 AM »


I agree all of this is 100% totally nuts but did Virginia violate the 90 day clause set forth in the National Voter Registration Act of 1993?

Because I always wonder why states try to fix their voting procedures so close to an election.  Why couldn't they do it sooner.

Welcome any explanations.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2024, 09:16:12 AM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2024, 01:14:28 PM »
I agree all of this is 100% totally nuts but did Virginia violate the 90 day clause set forth in the National Voter Registration Act of 1993?

Because I always wonder why states try to fix their voting procedures so close to an election.  Why couldn't they do it sooner.

Welcome any explanations.

Most states don't assign enough people to the elections commission until ballots need to be compiled and printed, polling places manned, and votes counted.  Lots of those people are volunteers, and the jobs don't require year-round staffing.

So, until it gets close to the election, they don't have the manpower to do these voter role cleanups without more funding.

You also have to consider the fact that cleaning up the roles too soon would potentially delete voters who may not have been permitted to vote when deleted, but would be eligible when the election is held, such as having your 18th birthday, receiving your naturalization as a citizen, having a felony charge expunged, lost or stolen ID or Social Security card, or establishing residency in Hawaii,  Any of these criteria can be remedied prior to the election.  The sooner you start purging roles, the more of these types of situations will cause the registration to be canceled before the voter's status can be verified as a legal voter.

The state also may not have the people or money to purge the roles sooner.  For instance, how do they know someone died or moved away?  Lots of crosschecking of records needs to be done so they know they are removing only ineligible registrations -- except for deceased Democrats who vote every election!   :geekdanc:

Hawaii's election workers and supervisors are divided into groups:

1.  Board of Registration
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Each Board of Registration convenes in their respective county on election day.
A Board may also convene at the request of the clerk to hear appeals from registered
voters and remain convened until all appeals are heard.

There are four Boards of Registration representing the following islands:

Island of Hawaii
Islands of Maui, Molokai, Lanai, and Kahoolawe
Island of Oahu
Islands of Kauai and Niihau

Each Board consists of three (3) members appointed by the Governor
serving four (4) year terms. In no case shall any Board consist entirely
of members of one political affiliation.

2.  Elections Commission:
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Act 57 (Bill No. HB 267, 2004) establishes a nine (9) member panel,
called the Elections Commission, which replaces the Elections and Appointment
Review Panel.

The Elections Commission is composed of the following:

Two (2) members appointed by the Senate President
Two (2) members appointed by the Senate Minority Leader
Two (2) members appointed by the House Speaker
Two (2) members appointed by the House Minority Leader
One (1) member selected by a two-thirds vote of the Elections
Commission to serve as Chairperson

Each group of four (4) Elections Commission members selected
by each house will include (1) member from each of the four counties:
Hawaii, Maui, Kauai, Oahu.

A person from the same county as the departing Elections member
will fill a vacancy in the Elections Commission. If the vacancy is not
filled within fifteen (15) days, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
will fill the vacancy.

3.  The Statewide Elections Accessibility Needs Advisory Committee
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The Statewide Elections Accessibility Needs Advisory Committee ensures
equal and independent access to voter registration, casting of ballots,
and all other election services.

The committee shall meet annually to review election procedures, services,
and technology and access to information, and shall make recommendations
to the Office of Elections.
.....
The committee shall consist of five (5) members appointed by the governor.
Each member shall identify as a voter with special needs arising from
physical disabilities including visual and hearing impairments that require
an accommodation to vote.

The terms of advisory committee members shall be four years.

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The elections could not be conducted without the assistance,
time, and dedication of hundreds of volunteers statewide!

Every even-numbered year, volunteers are needed:

- July through August for the Primary Election
- October through November for the General Election

https://elections.hawaii.gov/voting/volunteer/

« Last Edit: October 26, 2024, 01:27:28 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2024, 01:24:21 PM »
Most states don't assign enough people to the elections commission until ballots need to be compiled and printed, polling places manned, and votes counted.  Lots of those people are volunteers, and the jobs don't require year-round staffing.

So, until it gets close to the election, they don't have the manpower to do these voter role cleanups without more funding.

You also have to consider the fact that cleaning up the roles too soon would potentially delete voters who may not have been permitted to vote when deleted, but would be eligible when the election is held, such as having your 18th birthday, receiving your naturalization as a citizen, having a felony charge expunged, lost or stolen ID or Social Security card, or establishing residency in Hawaii,  Any of these criteria can be remedied prior to the election.  The sooner you start purging roles, the more of these types of situations will cause the registration to be canceled before the voter's status can be verified as a verified voter.

The state also may not have the people or money to purge the roles sooner.  For instance, how do they know someone died or moved away?  Lots of crosschecking of records needs to be done so they know they are removing only ineligible registrations -- except for deceased Democrats who vote every election!   :geekdanc:

Hawaii's election workers and supervisors are divided into groups:

1.  Board of Registration
2.  Elections Commission:
3.  The Statewide Elections Accessibility Needs Advisory Committee https://elections.hawaii.gov/voting/volunteer/

Thanks for the explanation! :shaka:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.