What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General (Read 17314 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #120 on: January 09, 2025, 03:43:09 PM »
"You need me on that wall.  You want me on that wall.

From the movie A Few Good Men.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #121 on: January 09, 2025, 03:46:43 PM »
The USAG is the top law enforcement officer in the US and one of the most powerful positions in the US.  I would say that's way above a babysitter for scrutiny in hiring and safety of the people.

Really?  You'd let someone like Garland who was held in contempt of Congress for not handing over the recordings taken of the Biden interviews babysit?  Do you honestly think he's the best person for the top cop position?

Biden was investigated for storing and passing classified information illegally, but the final report said they chose not to file charged because of Biden's poor memory and advanced age -- basically not competent enough to know what he did was wrong.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-merrick-garland-contempt-biden-audio-recordings/

Quote
“Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained
and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a
private citizen,” Hur wrote.
....
The documents have classification markings up to the Top Secret/Sensitive
Compartmented Information Level and were found in a box in Biden’s Delaware
garage “that contained other materials of great significance to him and that he
appears to have personally used and accessed.”

Photographs included in the report showed some of the classified Afghanistan
documents stored in a worn cardboard box stored in his garage, apparently in a
loose collection with other household items, including a ladder and a wicker basket.

Classified documents from the Obama administration were also found in Biden’s
basement den, according to the report. Classified documents from his time in the
Senate in the 1970s and 1980s were also found in his garage.
....
“Given Mr. Biden’s limited precision and recall during his interviews with his ghostwriter
and with our office, jurors may hesitate to place too much evidentiary weight on a single
eight-word utterance to his ghostwriter about finding classified documents in Virginia,
in the absence of other, more direct evidence.”

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury,
as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with
a poor memory,” investigators wrote.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says

Funny how Trump was the target of an FBI raid, but Biden was allowed to trickle the classified documents to the investigators as they located them in several locations.

Sorry, but if Garland got confirmed after his past of covering for a fellow judge in an ethics scandal and targeting Biden's political rivals, I see no reason Gaetz can't be confirmed.  The part of Gaetz's resume that's most important is not that he was investigated and never charged.  It's that he hasn't behaved as a swamp critter.

Maybe you can find Pam Bondi suitable to sit your kids?  Any problem with her?  Maybe start a new thread for her and let this one die since it's a non-issue now?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #122 on: January 09, 2025, 03:54:45 PM »
I 2nd letting the thread die since it's a non issue. But then again, we all know that someone here can't help himself and revive dead threads.

zippz

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #123 on: January 09, 2025, 09:12:15 PM »
Youre free to stop replying to this thread if you wish.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #124 on: January 09, 2025, 10:03:26 PM »
Youre free to stop replying to this thread if you wish.

I felt it was rude to not reply to you when you're quoting my posts. 

So, now that you've given me permission .....

 :wave:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #125 on: January 10, 2025, 08:36:18 AM »
Youre free to stop replying to this thread if you wish.

I should have been more clear and I hope you didn't take my post as I was talking about you.  I was talking about EEF as he often revives dead threads just so he can feel like he gets the last word in.

 :shaka:

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #126 on: January 10, 2025, 10:07:31 AM »
So besides this non-crime you think he committed since you did post the federal law after a 2nd try at it, why is he a dirtbag ad shouldn't be in power?

I didn't say I think he committed, I pointed out that he may have broken the law based on the allegations. Why do I think he is a dirtbag who shouldn't be in power? I point you towards the results of the congressional investigation. When it is one allegation or behavior I can give someone the benefit of the doubt but when you start to see a pattern then I think the allegations have more credibility.

Interestingly I just came across an old news article covering the fact that in 2015 Gaetz opposed a Florida law making revenge porn illegal and he had killed the same bill the year before when he was chair of the committee... Coincidence?

« Last Edit: January 10, 2025, 10:23:49 AM by eyeeatingfish »

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #127 on: January 10, 2025, 10:19:09 AM »
Really?  You'd let someone like Garland who was held in contempt of Congress for not handing over the recordings taken of the Biden interviews babysit?  Do you honestly think he's the best person for the top cop position?

Biden was investigated for storing and passing classified information illegally, but the final report said they chose not to file charged because of Biden's poor memory and advanced age -- basically not competent enough to know what he did was wrong.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-merrick-garland-contempt-biden-audio-recordings/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says

Funny how Trump was the target of an FBI raid, but Biden was allowed to trickle the classified documents to the investigators as they located them in several locations.

Sorry, but if Garland got confirmed after his past of covering for a fellow judge in an ethics scandal and targeting Biden's political rivals, I see no reason Gaetz can't be confirmed.  The part of Gaetz's resume that's most important is not that he was investigated and never charged.  It's that he hasn't behaved as a swamp critter.

Maybe you can find Pam Bondi suitable to sit your kids?  Any problem with her?  Maybe start a new thread for her and let this one die since it's a non-issue now?

I would say some of your criticisms of Gardland are fair and some are not however even if we agree that Gardland was not a good AG, that doesn't make Gaetz a good one.

What makes Gaetz a good pick for AG? He is politically loud and stirs stuff up but that isn't much of a qualification for the job. How much experience does he have in law enforcement, as a criminal attorney, or as a judge? (very little IIRC).

You painted this as an issue whether we want a messy attack dog or a safe but quite guard dog which creates a false dichotomy. It is not the case that Gaetz was the only choice so Trump had to settle for his moral imperfections. There are going to be hundreds of other qualified individuals capable of doing that job without the skeletons Gaetz had. They just wont be loud and proud Trump supporters.

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #128 on: January 10, 2025, 10:24:14 AM »
I didn't say I think he committed, I pointed out that he may have broken the law based on the allegations. Why do I think he is a dirtbag who shouldn't be in power? I point you towards the results of the congressional investigation.

We all know what you said.  And read what I said. Simple, but here you are continuing to argue about it.  Thats also a low bar you have and the DNC's plan works on people like you. Just accuse someone with lack of credible evidence and you won't want them for X job.  "I point you to the congressional investigation", which lead to no charge or arrest.

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #129 on: January 10, 2025, 10:25:28 AM »
I should have been more clear and I hope you didn't take my post as I was talking about you.  I was talking about EEF as he often revives dead threads just so he can feel like he gets the last word in.

 :shaka:

Wrong.
I go on a break, I come back to rebut your reply, and you whine about reviving a dead thread, while simultaneously not letting it die.

You are free of course to not reply...  :popcorn:

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #130 on: January 10, 2025, 10:31:25 AM »
We all know what you said.  And read what I said. Simple, but here you are continuing to argue about it.  Thats also a low bar you have and the DNC's plan works on people like you. Just accuse someone with lack of credible evidence and you won't want them for X job.  "I point you to the congressional investigation", which lead to no charge or arrest.

You are responding to my post with an argument but asking me why I am arguing?  :crazy: I said he was a dirtbag, you asked me why and I responded. Do you want me to answer your question or not?

"lead to no charge or arrest" is an irrelevant argument since it neither means what you think it means nor does it have any bearing on whether we can judge Gaetz is a good pick. Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies so does that mean you will say he shouldn't be president now or are you just using the "not charged or convicted" as a matter of convenience? People can commit terrible crimes and not be charged or convicted but that doesn't mean they are suddenly good people who have never done anything wrong. You also suggested "lack of credible evidence" but I would not agree with that opinion.

Interestingly I just came across an old news article covering the fact that in 2015 Gaetz opposed a Florida law making revenge porn illegal and he had killed the same bill the year before when he was chair of the committee... Coincidence? When it is one allegation or behavior I can give someone the benefit of the doubt but when you start to see a pattern then I think the allegations have more credibility.

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #131 on: January 10, 2025, 11:41:17 AM »
Wrong.
I go on a break, I come back to rebut your reply, and you whine about reviving a dead thread, while simultaneously not letting it die.

You are free of course to not reply...  :popcorn:

Now you're copying me.  How original.  Hahahahahhaha. We all know that you're on a break from replying, capt obvious.

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #132 on: January 10, 2025, 11:44:19 AM »
You are responding to my post with an argument but asking me why I am arguing?  :crazy: I said he was a dirtbag, you asked me why and I responded. Do you want me to answer your question or not?

"lead to no charge or arrest" is an irrelevant argument since it neither means what you think it means nor does it have any bearing on whether we can judge Gaetz is a good pick. Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies so does that mean you will say he shouldn't be president now or are you just using the "not charged or convicted" as a matter of convenience? People can commit terrible crimes and not be charged or convicted but that doesn't mean they are suddenly good people who have never done anything wrong. You also suggested "lack of credible evidence" but I would not agree with that opinion.

Interestingly I just came across an old news article covering the fact that in 2015 Gaetz opposed a Florida law making revenge porn illegal and he had killed the same bill the year before when he was chair of the committee... Coincidence? When it is one allegation or behavior I can give someone the benefit of the doubt but when you start to see a pattern then I think the allegations have more credibility.

You are responding to my post with an argument but asking me why I am arguing?  Asking why you think he's a dirtbag isn't arguing.  You keep imagining things that aren't there.

SWOOOOSSHHH to everything else you posted in the other 2 paragraphs.I assume you also haven't read the bills he killed.  Maybe you will get lucky again like when you posted HI law about sharing pics, instead of the federal one.

What if you don't respond anymore to this thread?. This is rhetorical as I know you cannot help yourself. So I'll wait and your reply will prob get either swoooshed or be wrong like usual.

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2025, 11:49:54 AM »
Now you're copying me.  How original.  Hahahahahhaha. We all know that you're on a break from replying, capt obvious.

You are under the false impression that me taking a break somehow means you actually won the debate. That would explain why you are so upset over me "reviving a dead thread"

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #134 on: January 14, 2025, 11:54:17 AM »
You are responding to my post with an argument but asking me why I am arguing?  Asking why you think he's a dirtbag isn't arguing.  You keep imagining things that aren't there.

SWOOOOSSHHH to everything else you posted in the other 2 paragraphs.I assume you also haven't read the bills he killed.  Maybe you will get lucky again like when you posted HI law about sharing pics, instead of the federal one.

What if you don't respond anymore to this thread?. This is rhetorical as I know you cannot help yourself. So I'll wait and your reply will prob get either swoooshed or be wrong like usual.

I said why I thought he was a dirtbag and you argued with me. #projecting

Feel free to go read the bill he killed and tell me why he was correct in killing it. Feel free to go show me the good reason for voting against the bill despite large bipartisan support for it. Before you do though I will point out to you that he never provided any reason for killing the bill or voting against it the next year. If there was a good reason to vote against it you would think he would justify his decision...

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2025, 12:09:43 PM »
You are under the false impression that me taking a break somehow means you actually won the debate. That would explain why you are so upset over me "reviving a dead thread"


Annnddd he's back to revive a moot thread.

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #136 on: January 14, 2025, 12:10:03 PM »
I said why I thought he was a dirtbag and you argued with me. #projecting

Feel free to go read the bill he killed and tell me why he was correct in killing it. Feel free to go show me the good reason for voting against the bill despite large bipartisan support for it. Before you do though I will point out to you that he never provided any reason for killing the bill or voting against it the next year. If there was a good reason to vote against it you would think he would justify his decision...

He's back again. Hahahahahahahha

I'm a future teller. He will be back in this thread again.

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #137 on: January 17, 2025, 12:03:58 PM »

Annnddd he's back to revive a moot thread.

You are free to stop responding  :thumbsup:

Let me try my hand on this future telling thing..... CMO will respond to me on this thread.    :popcorn:

changemyoil66

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #138 on: January 17, 2025, 12:08:33 PM »
You are free to stop responding  :thumbsup:

Let me try my hand on this future telling thing..... CMO will respond to me on this thread.    :popcorn:


OMG, he did it again. He can't help himself. Hahahahahahha.

And he's trying to copy me once again. "CMO will respond to me..." More proof he cannot think for himself, but relies on what he hears on TV.

eyeeatingfish

Re: What are your opinions of Matt Gaetz Nomination for Attorney General
« Reply #139 on: January 21, 2025, 11:22:03 AM »

OMG, he did it again. He can't help himself. Hahahahahahha.

And he's trying to copy me once again. "CMO will respond to me..." More proof he cannot think for himself, but relies on what he hears on TV.

Shucks, I should have put money on my prediction!  :popcorn: