If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up (Read 19623 times)

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 10:53:40 AM »
Yeah they do a good job of communication..however I am order like 16178 or something...this is going to take a while.

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2013, 10:55:05 AM »
Yeah they do a good job of communication..however I am order like 16178 or something...this is going to take a while.
That sucks, man.  I'm like 82xx, so I'm hoping to see an email real soon. 
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2013, 12:29:23 PM »
and from the ceo too

Wow, I sent Mako Group an email about this, and got a reply two minutes later.  No joke, I sent the email asking about my order at 0935, and got the reply in my inbox at 0937.  Mako Group is winning some customer service awards in my mind!  Here's the email, which may be informative for others:

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2013, 12:42:33 PM »
and from the ceo too
Haha, i'm pretty sure some guy in Bunglapore, India, was the one clicking the checkbox next to "when will order ship", but at least they got back to me quickly.
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2013, 05:13:29 PM »
Just found out today my order got held up because they didn't have 40 rounders in stock. shipped today. super fast response from their rep.
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2013, 11:25:46 PM »
That sucks, man.  I'm like 82xx, so I'm hoping to see an email real soon. 

no shit?  me too, 82xx also on the same day!  status still shows processing.  I have zero worries about Mako Group though, they will deliver. 

(my previous post order was 6xxx's) 

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2013, 04:45:22 PM »
no shit?  me too, 82xx also on the same day!  status still shows processing.  I have zero worries about Mako Group though, they will deliver. 

(my previous post order was 6xxx's)

No worries guys...I placed an order with them on Dec 31 for some other stuffs and my order # was 81XX. Then on Jan 10th I placed my order for the E-Lander mags order #16XXX. Sent them an e-mail tuesday about both orders and got a reply saying that my order will ship by the end of the week...Then today I got another e-mail confirmation that it went out today. :thumbsup:

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2013, 08:58:39 PM »
Got mine in the mail today after 4.5 weeks of waiting. The mags looked very well made.
Put in new order to get more.

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2013, 02:42:12 PM »
Has anyone run these magazines for functioning/fit?

Read a post on another forum:

I got my order in and pulled one (YES A SAMPLE OF ONE) out to try.  As others have previously noted here and elsewhere, construction, fit and finish seems very good.

I tried it out on a few different AR-15 combinations that I was able to pull together to test for fit only - no live fire testing yet.

Uppers: Armalite forged and RRA forged
Lowers: RRA forged and Seekins Precision billet

There was no significant difference with any combination of upper and lower NOR of loaded/unloaded status of the mag.

-  In all combinations the mag was easy to insert into the magwell and dropped free once released.
-  In both styles of lowers-only (no upper) the mag was easy to seat and release.
-  All combinations of complete upper/lower , mag empty/full, bolt closed or out required the mag to be VERY FIRMLY slapped/slammed-up to engage the magazine catch.
-  In all complete upper/lower combinations the mag was VERY DIFFICULT to release using the mag-release button and IMPOSSIBLE using a Norgon Ambi-Catch on the left.

From direct observation while the magazine was inserted and the bolt carrier removed and inspection of the wear spots on the mag, it appears that magazine is indexing against the bottom of the bolt-carrier track flare on the upper with the front and rear of the magazine feed-lips just above where they start to turn in (about 3/32" above the initial bend in from vertical.)

I also noticed noticeable longitudinal scoring of the top round (probably from the bolt lug) when the bolt carrier was drawn back over a fully loaded and inserted mag.

At this point, I would have to conclude that, without the modification of the mag-catch notch like described above, they are emergency use only for me in an AR.

I'll be doing some digital caliper measurements when I get a chance and will compare them against some C-Products stainless and P-Mags.  If I find any clear variance I'll report back, but the 2-D cross-sectional geometry may be tough to cross reference.

I haven't seen the recent stuff on the ARFCom thread but I'll have to take a look.  I believe the reality is that Mako/E-Lander is running full-out, with people buying every mag they can get out the door, because it is a box that pushes bullets up with a spring. That will make them loath to address manufacturing tolerance issues, or even design spec. issues in their product - especially retroactively (i.e. fixing the design/manufacturing and replacing possibly 10's of 1000s of already shipped mags.)


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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2013, 07:58:10 AM »
Bruddahs!!

Found this video comparing the E-Lander mags to the new PMAGs:



I admit that I WAS going to buy a bunch of E-Landers until I saw this vid, but of course, your personal experiences may differ.

Just wanted to share some information!!

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2013, 06:19:38 PM »
Bruddahs!!

Found this video comparing the E-Lander mags to the new PMAGs:



I admit that I WAS going to buy a bunch of E-Landers until I saw this vid, but of course, your personal experiences may differ.

Just wanted to share some information!!

 :shaka:


Damn, those E-lander mags, got messed up, real quick.  Then again with the shortage of mags, it's better to have not so good mags, then not have any at all. 

new guy

Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2013, 06:31:23 PM »
Damn, those E-lander mags, got messed up, real quick.  Then again with the shortage of mags, it's better to have not so good mags, then not have any at all.

Truth. And again, take the review for what it is... one person's personal experience with this specific batch of magazines!
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2013, 07:53:32 PM »
Bruddahs!!

Found this video comparing the E-Lander mags to the new PMAGs:



I admit that I WAS going to buy a bunch of E-Landers until I saw this vid, but of course, your personal experiences may differ.

Just wanted to share some information!!

 :shaka:

Meh.  Still looks like a good product to me.  Anyone should know better than to run over a metal magazine over gravel.  That was a big DUH moment.  Definitely better than aluminum GI mags.  Also, he inserted the mag funny.  I always at least had my palm beneath the magazine to help shove it in.  I have no experience with them, so YMMV, but it still looks like an excellent product.
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2013, 10:50:11 PM »
Meh.  Still looks like a good product to me.  Anyone should know better than to run over a metal magazine over gravel.  That was a big DUH moment.  Definitely better than aluminum GI mags.  Also, he inserted the mag funny.  I always at least had my palm beneath the magazine to help shove it in.  I have no experience with them, so YMMV, but it still looks like an excellent product.

Exactly, I saw the video when he first posted it but has since added a comment into the video which states that the test is silly. Also...chances are your mags are not going to be run over. I have a couple on order so well see.

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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2013, 12:37:02 PM »
I got my E-lander mags in and my 1st impression of them is that they're pretty good quality. They don't drop freely out of my unfired rifle, but they do in the one I shoot regularly
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2013, 04:07:14 PM »
I got my E-lander mags in and my 1st impression of them is that they're pretty good quality. They don't drop freely out of my unfired rifle, but they do in the one I shoot regularly

Some rifles magwells alow the magazine to drop free and some don't.  My RRA allows my PMAGS to drop free.  My Bushmaster allows my PMAGS to drop free.  My friend's (military) Colt M4A1 allowed my PMAGS to drop free.  My (military) FN M16A4 did NOT allow ANY PMAGS to drop free.  Not all are made the same.
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Re: If you need 30 rd ar15 mags - heads up
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2013, 12:16:49 AM »
Thanks for the video New Guy!  Twang and Bang got some good ones and he doesn't b.s. us or go on and on (and on and on some more)  :D

Good tip to download these like the USGIs.  No plans to run 'em over either.  Happy that Mako Group ships to Hawaii at all so I give them some business!   

Looks like MSAR is making AR mags too now, early ones were translucent like the Lancers. 

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