Apparently with the wipe baffles it’s insanely quiet, so it might buy him an extra few seconds of getaway time.
But there’s only 250 of them registered in the US and they are like $6000 for the kit.
Between Gucci gun, the ebike and his designer backpack it doesn’t look like this guy was hurting for money.

i don't think the weapons is that B&T VP9.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1864376425685438810

if you slo-mo the video, down to 0.25x speed, blow it up to full-screen (monitor on a desk-top, forget looking at it on a dinky little mobile phone screen), for the first shot, you can clearly see the slide cycling.  conventional semi-auto like.

also, from how the shooter manipulates the slide to clear the malfunction, he grasps the slide normal-like, and pulls it straight back.  also, when he has to tap it into battery, that's also something for normal semi-auto pistol.  Also, from the grainy video, doesn't look like a hammer-fired pistol, so, striker-fired.

looks like it failed to eject on the first shot, so he clears the malfunction and takes a second shot..  malfunctions again, he's clearing the malfunction while walking up to the victim to take the next shot.  From the 2nd shot onwards, it's too grainy to make anything out, also, no audio.

could be one of those common 9-mills, after all, he traveled from-or-through Atlanta on his way to NYC.

but I'm no expert.

also, video shows the backpack as gray, however, the backpack found in the park was blue.  Could be the lighting from the flashlight.  Tactical flashlight, cough, excuse me.  The sidewalk shooting security video is in color, and doesn't show the backpack to be blue.   

time will tell, we shall see.  OTOH, it being the Eff Bee Eye, maybe we'll never know.

i don't think the weapons is that B&T VP9.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1864376425685438810

if you slo-mo the video, down to 0.25x speed, blow it up to full-screen (monitor on a desk-top, forget looking at it on a dinky little mobile phone screen), for the first shot, you can clearly see the slide cycling.  conventional semi-auto like.

Could still be the B&T, depends if it can be fired with the bolt unlocked or not and if it will cycle rounds from the magazine with the bolt unlocked when fired.  I can surmise the unlocked bolt could be cycled with an overhand grip.

Edit:  Reviewing it again, it wouldn't have a recoil spring so the bolt would stay back even if it could be fired unlocked.

B&T is also marketed as a veterinary pistol.

These distinctions will be important in this upcoming legislature session when I'm sure some Everytown expert will try to claim this was a ghost gun.

It's not like they have any shame when it comes to twisting the facts.

This video claims that the shooter was an amateur. It opens up a can of worms as far as how many unanswered questions remain.



The victim may not be CEO Thompson, for all we know. Did his wife ID the body? Why would someone stage something as crazy as this idea? This is 'murica, that's why.
The shooter may or may not be discovered for weeks. Many in the public may even hide him while the manhunt goes on.
How many states allow the shooter to practice on a range using a handgun with a suppressor attached? If he practiced on a private lot, that would be a different story, but no range owner has come forth to id the guy.

This video claims that the shooter was an amateur. It opens up a can of worms as far as how many unanswered questions remain.

The victim may not be CEO Thompson, for all we know. Did his wife ID the body? Why would someone stage something as crazy as this idea? This is 'murica, that's why.
The shooter may or may not be discovered for weeks. Many in the public may even hide him while the manhunt goes on.
How many states allow the shooter to practice on a range using a handgun with a suppressor attached? If he practiced on a private lot, that would be a different story, but no range owner has come forth to id the guy.

Range owners don't usually work the range check in.  They hire people for that stuff.  If it's a tiny range, then maybe the owner works every shift, but a range of any size has a staff to work the range, gun shop, etc.

How many mainland ranges in how many states have you frequented?

One I used in NC a couple of times has a suppressor "club" to help customers legally acquire suppressors by filing out the NFA application.  They also offered a trust  to transfer your suppressors into so any trust member you designate was allowed to own/use them.  Before the ATF changed the rules, the Form 1 that is used to transfer an NFA item required a local law enforcement signature.  The rule had an exception for trusts which became the main reason to get a trust.  That reason for a trust no longer exists, but having a trust helps with estate planning and sharing of suppressors, etc.  NFA items are not always transferrable, but a trust will survive the owner eliminating the risk of NFA item/s being confiscated and destroyed upon the owner's death.

Anyway, gun ranges/shops that do these kind of sales also allow use of suppressors by their members.  That specific range had 2 range locations -- one indoor for handguns and one outdoor for very large caliber handguns and rifles of any size.

One of that range's rules says something you won't ever see in Hawaii:

Shooters under the age of 14 may not fire any full automatics.  

They have 18 on another list of rules for the indoor range, so it may or may not be 18 for both ranges.

https://shootersexpress.com/shop-2/nfa-class-iii/

Some more cctv images of the assassin just released

Vast majority of ranges don't care if a firearm is suppressed in the legal states. A few may ban it along with things like human silhouette targets, assault weapons, and such.

Shooter looked like he had some skills, equivalent to a little more than basic CCW training.

How many states allow the shooter to practice on a range using a handgun with a suppressor attached? If he practiced on a private lot, that would be a different story, but no range owner has come forth to id the guy.

Initial report said he's from GA. GA allows suppressors. Whether the ranges do or not, IDK. I've never looked into it. But I have looked into a state like NV (Vegas). Suppressors are legal and you can use them in the range.  Indoor or Clark County public range.  They do not check ID, nor do they have a gun registration. 1 gun store that I know of named Ventura Munition sells suppressors and has a sponsored SupresorCo tablet that helps you apply for your taxstamp at the store (online). I've seen multiple other stores selling suppressors as well.

So even if the shooter lived in NYC that has strict handgun/suppressors laws, he can just drive and practice elsewhere.  Or go into the forest to practice.  It would only take less than 30 seconds to figure out if your handgun functions or not.  So 2am and doing car pops on an empty road could be done as well.  Now fixing the issue for a malfunction is another story.

In my observation, the shooter did know his gun wouldn't cycle, which is why he was so quick to rack the slide. I don't think he used a B&T as the racking was very quick. Could he have practiced, sure. But what would be easier is to 3D print a gun or buy a stolen gun.  I'm leaning toward 3D print due to the jamming.

Range owners don't usually work the range check in.  They hire people for that stuff.  If it's a tiny range, then maybe the owner works every shift, but a range of any size has a staff to work the range, gun shop, etc.

How many mainland ranges in how many states have you frequented?

One I used in NC a couple of times has a suppressor "club" to help customers legally acquire suppressors by filing out the NFA application.  They also offered a trust  to transfer your suppressors into so any trust member you designate was allowed to own/use them.  Before the ATF changed the rules, the Form 1 that is used to transfer an NFA item required a local law enforcement signature.  The rule had an exception for trusts which became the main reason to get a trust.  That reason for a trust no longer exists, but having a trust helps with estate planning and sharing of suppressors, etc.  NFA items are not always transferrable, but a trust will survive the owner eliminating the risk of NFA item/s being confiscated and destroyed upon the owner's death.

Anyway, gun ranges/shops that do these kind of sales also allow use of suppressors by their members.  That specific range had 2 range locations -- one indoor for handguns and one outdoor for very large caliber handguns and rifles of any size.

One of that range's rules says something you won't ever see in Hawaii:

Shooters under the age of 14 may not fire any full automatics.  

They have 18 on another list of rules for the indoor range, so it may or may not be 18 for both ranges.

https://shootersexpress.com/shop-2/nfa-class-iii/

I've never seen a RSO at KHSC check ID"s or reg either.  I wonder what their SOP is if someone were to shoot a real suppressor. Would they call HPD or tell them to leave?  I've seen many with faux suppressors for various calibers, including 22.  RSO's never looked twice at the 22LR faux ones either.  Maybe they know what a 22LR is supposed to sound like unsuppressed.

Lots of "experts" coming out of the woodworks. The worst ones are the anti 2as who continue to make up terms for things they don't have an understanding of. "ghost guns" is such a stupid term. It was concocted just to project their fear in the general public. Why don't we apply this fake term concept to vehicles that aren't registered. The whole premise behind this is government control. Govt fears what it can not control. How about a new term Baba Yaga.

Lots of "experts" coming out of the woodworks. The worst ones are the anti 2as who continue to make up terms for things they don't have an understanding of. "ghost guns" is such a stupid term. It was concocted just to project their fear in the general public. Why don't we apply this fake term concept to vehicles that aren't registered. The whole premise behind this is government control. Govt fears what it can not control. How about a new term Baba Yaga.

I thought u were gonna post "range too far".

Suspect allegedly arrested with a ghost gun and suppressor

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/12/09/man-being-held-questioning-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-reports-say/

Definitely an idiot and not a pro if he kept all that stuff on him.  He could've ditched it anywhere in the past week.

Or an attention whore.  Even willing to be prosecuted because he will be headlines.  Might even orgasm during the process.

Or an attention whore.  Even willing to be prosecuted because he will be headlines.  Might even orgasm during the process.

Or be an orgasm causer in prison.

Suspect allegedly arrested with a ghost gun and suppressor

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/12/09/man-being-held-questioning-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-reports-say/

geez, another loser with ties to Hawaii.  (Trump golf-course wannabe assassin)

if it is the guy, and he still had the gun, and the clothes from the shooting, and the fake IDs he used, then he is truly a moron.

Maybe a Kamala voter.

geez, another loser with ties to Hawaii.  (Trump golf-course wannabe assassin)

if it is the guy, and he still had the gun, and the clothes from the shooting, and the fake IDs he used, then he is truly a moron.

Maybe a Kamala voter.

He is against climate change and capitalism.