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Flapp_Jackson

Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« on: December 14, 2024, 02:22:37 PM »
The left admitted to using guns for violence -- not self defense, but for other reasons.

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When We Asked Survey Respondents:

“Have you ever fired a gun in anger?”
- Democrats: 16% Yes
- Republicans: 10% Yes

“Have you ever threatened someone with a gun?”
- Democrats: 18% Yes
- Republicans: 11% Yes

“Have you ever used a gun to get what you want?”
- Democrats: 13% Yes
- Republicans: 6% Yes

One of the surprising conclusions of the survey stated.
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Men who own just one gun are more likely to use that
gun in a dangerous way than men who own more guns.
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a62977201/mental-health-men-guns-survey-takeaways/

Admittedly, most Right-leaning gun owners are reluctant to answer gun surveys at all, so the pool have have been weighted more in the Democrat direction.

Also, there's no way to know if respondents were honest. 

Regardless, the fact this was published makes me think perhaps the tide is turning when it comes to having an honest debate about gun control.  Baby steps.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AM »
This goes in line with what I have noticed in other areas. The right comes off as more crazy and appearing violent in their beliefs but when the rubber meets the road they seem more emotionally stable and less likely to resort to actually using force without justification.

On a side note I have to wonder about the percentages as they seem rather high. 10% of republicans have fired a gun in anger or threatened someone with a gun? Are they including being sent to war? Was this survey done in a bad part of Chicago? That just seems awfully high as an overall number. I doubt 10% or even 6% of republicans in Hawaii have used a gun for any of these things outside of police/military type situations.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2024, 12:26:08 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on December 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AM
This goes in line with what I have noticed in other areas. The right comes off as more crazy and appearing violent in their beliefs but when the rubber meets the road they seem more emotionally stable and less likely to resort to actually using force without justification.

On a side note I have to wonder about the percentages as they seem rather high. 10% of republicans have fired a gun in anger or threatened someone with a gun? Are they including being sent to war? Was this survey done in a bad part of Chicago? That just seems awfully high as an overall number. I doubt 10% or even 6% of republicans in Hawaii have used a gun for any of these things outside of police/military type situations.

You seem to have many questions and no answers.  Maybe do some research on your own for a change?

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METHODOLOGY: Men’s Health conducted this survey of 1,211 men over
age 18 in the United States who owned a gun. The data-collection period
spanned from April 15 to April 29, 2024. The survey was distributed to individuals
using SurveyMonkey, Inc., San Mateo, California. www.surveymonkey.com
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a62977201/mental-health-men-guns-survey-takeaways/

« Last Edit: December 15, 2024, 03:07:12 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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hvybarrels

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2024, 01:20:20 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on December 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AM
This goes in line with what I have noticed in other areas. The right comes off as more crazy and appearing violent in their beliefs but when the rubber meets the road they seem more emotionally stable and less likely to resort to actually using force without justification.

On a side note I have to wonder about the percentages as they seem rather high. 10% of republicans have fired a gun in anger or threatened someone with a gun? Are they including being sent to war? Was this survey done in a bad part of Chicago? That just seems awfully high as an overall number. I doubt 10% or even 6% of republicans in Hawaii have used a gun for any of these things outside of police/military type situations.

It happens pretty regularly, but nobody wants tell the police because the state would figure out a way to turn it into a crime and lock the person up for defending themselves.

Ever notice how the insane homeless who attack people get let right back out onto the street but then they seize lawfully registered guns from guys who saw a psychologist for minor psychiatric issues?

There's no money to be made from the homeless. Pirate logic.
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changemyoil66

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2024, 09:29:56 AM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on December 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AM
This goes in line with what I have noticed in other areas. The right comes off as more crazy and appearing violent in their beliefs but when the rubber meets the road they seem more emotionally stable and less likely to resort to actually using force without justification.

On a side note I have to wonder about the percentages as they seem rather high. 10% of republicans have fired a gun in anger or threatened someone with a gun? Are they including being sent to war? Was this survey done in a bad part of Chicago? That just seems awfully high as an overall number. I doubt 10% or even 6% of republicans in Hawaii have used a gun for any of these things outside of police/military type situations.

We do know the result of strict gun laws in blue cities...
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rpoL98

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2024, 12:11:05 PM »



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hvybarrels

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2024, 12:35:24 PM »
That's the problem with hatred. You end up becoming exactly what it is that you hate.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2024, 12:50:32 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on December 16, 2024, 12:35:24 PM
That's the problem with hatred. You end up becoming exactly what it is that you hate.

i found throughout life most people hate anyone who reminds them of their own shortcomings. 

It's projection in its basic form.

So, do they become what they hate, or are they already what they hate, hating themselves because of it, and projecting what they are onto others?

Chicken and egg conundrum. 
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2024, 01:57:33 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on December 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AM
This goes in line with what I have noticed in other areas. The right comes off as more crazy and appearing violent in their beliefs but when the rubber meets the road they seem more emotionally stable and less likely to resort to actually using force without justification.

On a side note I have to wonder about the percentages as they seem rather high. 10% of republicans have fired a gun in anger or threatened someone with a gun? Are they including being sent to war? Was this survey done in a bad part of Chicago? That just seems awfully high as an overall number. I doubt 10% or even 6% of republicans in Hawaii have used a gun for any of these things outside of police/military type situations.
Yeah, I am sure "they" answered this poll. . .
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changemyoil66

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2024, 03:23:09 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on December 16, 2024, 01:57:33 PM
Yeah, I am sure "they" answered this poll. . .

What do you mean by "they"?  Those people don't take too kindly when you refer to them as "they".
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2024, 04:41:13 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on December 16, 2024, 03:23:09 PM
What do you mean by "they"?  Those people don't take too kindly when you refer to them as "they".

"They" hate being called "those people' more than "they."

 O0 :geekdanc: :shake:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2024, 05:47:37 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on December 16, 2024, 03:23:09 PM
What do you mean by "they"?  Those people don't take too kindly when you refer to them as "they".
You’se guys?
Them all?
THOT?
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QUIETShooter

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2024, 07:27:42 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on December 16, 2024, 03:23:09 PM
What do you mean by "they"?  Those people don't take too kindly when you refer to them as "they".

Ok.

Dose Fackahs.
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macsak

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2024, 07:50:12 PM »
"you people"
"your people"

Quote from: drck1000 on December 16, 2024, 05:47:37 PM
You’se guys?
Them all?
THOT?
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rpoL98

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2024, 08:18:40 PM »
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ren

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2024, 08:28:44 PM »
y'all WAYCISTS!
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drck1000

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2024, 07:47:06 AM »
Quote from: macsak on December 16, 2024, 07:50:12 PM
"you people"
"your people"
I was poking fun as a coworker who is from Philly and this "you'se guys/all" slips out every so often. . . cracks me up. . .gangsta  ;D

But yeah, "your people" seem easily offended. . . #notdoctors
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macsak

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2024, 07:58:13 AM »
heads

Quote from: drck1000 on December 17, 2024, 07:47:06 AM
I was poking fun as a coworker who is from Philly and this "you'se guys/all" slips out every so often. . . cracks me up. . .gangsta  ;D

But yeah, "your people" seem easily offended. . . #notdoctors
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2024, 12:35:31 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on December 15, 2024, 12:26:08 PM
You seem to have many questions and no answers.  Maybe do some research on your own for a change?
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a62977201/mental-health-men-guns-survey-takeaways/

Swoosh.
your link is behind a paywall...

Maybe just try to address the issue I raised instead of pointless snark.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Survey: The Left is More Likely to Use Guns for Violence
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2024, 12:40:17 AM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on December 15, 2024, 01:20:20 PM
It happens pretty regularly, but nobody wants tell the police because the state would figure out a way to turn it into a crime and lock the person up for defending themselves.

Ever notice how the insane homeless who attack people get let right back out onto the street but then they seize lawfully registered guns from guys who saw a psychologist for minor psychiatric issues?

There's no money to be made from the homeless. Pirate logic.

I wouldn't consider using a gun in self defense to be "using a gun to get what I want" though and even then I wouldn't really consider firing a gun in self defense to be out of anger or a threat either though technically I could be angrily firing at an attacker. I don't know if the questions gave better explanations but the image I got from the wording are more along the lines of improper uses of firearms. Plus Flapp specifically said not for self defense. These questions make it sound like 10% of republicans have committed a gun crime.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2024, 12:45:43 AM by eyeeatingfish »
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